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Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65345] Fri, 27 February 2009 00:32 Go to next message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Registered: November 1998
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David Fanning schrieb:
> cmancone@gmail.com writes:
>
>> This will fix it:
>>
>> 1) back up your data
>> 2) format your hard-drive
>> 3) install linux
>
> Yeah, just don't put KDE 4 on there or your life will
> never seem simple again. ;-)
>

Or if you do use 4.2++

cheers
Reimar
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65349 is a reply to message #65345] Thu, 26 February 2009 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Dave L writes:

> ITT tech support told me to delete the hidden directory of workbench
> config files (C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\.idl), which
> apparently isn't removed when you uninstall IDL, and that solved the
> problem.
>
> So was this an IDL issue or an OS issue? Or maybe both?

Ah, that friggin' hidden workbench file. Yes, I've
had run-ins with this guy before. I'll make a note!

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65350 is a reply to message #65349] Thu, 26 February 2009 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave L is currently offline  Dave L
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Registered: May 2008
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On Feb 25, 5:44 pm, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Dave L writes:
>> This is my office computer, and I keep all my pirated stuff at home.
>
>> There was an XP automatic update that I installed this morning, but
>> after removing it IDL is still crashing.  I haven't made any other
>> changes, updates, or added software in the last few weeks.  MatLab and
>> every other program works fine and the firewall and virus protection
>> are on and haven't found anything.
>
>> IDL starts up and begins analyzing code, then crashes within about 5
>> seconds.  This is the first problem I've had with IDL.
>
> Well, I'm still not sold on the idea of it's being
> an "IDL problem", but it is not outside the world
> of possibility, certainly. But I've been working with IDL
> for a long time (15 yrs?) on Windows computers and I've never,
> ever had a problem like this with it.
>
> My recommendation, based on problems I *have* had is to
> do this. Uninstall IDL. Then run a registry cleaner
> (a good idea at ANY time!). I use Registry Mechanic and
> highly recommend it. Sometime I run it twice in a row, just
> to be sure. Then install IDL again.
>
> Let us know what happens. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.dfanning.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

Cleaning the registry didn't help, but it did find a lot of errors.

ITT tech support told me to delete the hidden directory of workbench
config files (C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\.idl), which
apparently isn't removed when you uninstall IDL, and that solved the
problem.

So was this an IDL issue or an OS issue? Or maybe both?
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65355 is a reply to message #65350] Thu, 26 February 2009 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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cmancone@gmail.com writes:

> This will fix it:
>
> 1) back up your data
> 2) format your hard-drive
> 3) install linux

Yeah, just don't put KDE 4 on there or your life will
never seem simple again. ;-)

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65356 is a reply to message #65355] Thu, 26 February 2009 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Conor is currently offline  Conor
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On Feb 25, 5:53 pm, Dave L <dave.le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running IDL 7.0 on Windows XP with 3gb ram. I've had no problems
> for the 5 months I've been using IDL on this computer, then today
> idlde.exe crashed while I was just writing some code. Now it just
> starts up and crashes immediately. I've reinstalled IDL and it's
> still crashing.
>
> Anyone have some idea of what's happening?

This will fix it:

1) back up your data
2) format your hard-drive
3) install linux

**voila!**
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65361 is a reply to message #65356] Thu, 26 February 2009 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Registered: November 1998
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Dave L schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running IDL 7.0 on Windows XP with 3gb ram. I've had no problems
> for the 5 months I've been using IDL on this computer, then today
> idlde.exe crashed while I was just writing some code. Now it just
> starts up and crashes immediately. I've reinstalled IDL and it's
> still crashing.
>
> Anyone have some idea of what's happening?
>

7.0.6 ?
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65364 is a reply to message #65361] Wed, 25 February 2009 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
Senior Member
Dave L writes:

> This is my office computer, and I keep all my pirated stuff at home.
>
> There was an XP automatic update that I installed this morning, but
> after removing it IDL is still crashing. I haven't made any other
> changes, updates, or added software in the last few weeks. MatLab and
> every other program works fine and the firewall and virus protection
> are on and haven't found anything.
>
> IDL starts up and begins analyzing code, then crashes within about 5
> seconds. This is the first problem I've had with IDL.

Well, I'm still not sold on the idea of it's being
an "IDL problem", but it is not outside the world
of possibility, certainly. But I've been working with IDL
for a long time (15 yrs?) on Windows computers and I've never,
ever had a problem like this with it.

My recommendation, based on problems I *have* had is to
do this. Uninstall IDL. Then run a registry cleaner
(a good idea at ANY time!). I use Registry Mechanic and
highly recommend it. Sometime I run it twice in a row, just
to be sure. Then install IDL again.

Let us know what happens. :-)

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65365 is a reply to message #65364] Wed, 25 February 2009 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave L is currently offline  Dave L
Messages: 5
Registered: May 2008
Junior Member
On Feb 25, 3:28 pm, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Dave L writes:
>> I'm running IDL 7.0 on Windows XP with 3gb ram.  I've had no problems
>> for the 5 months I've been using IDL on this computer, then today
>> idlde.exe crashed while I was just writing some code.  Now it just
>> starts up and crashes immediately.  I've reinstalled IDL and it's
>> still crashing.
>
>> Anyone have some idea of what's happening?
>
> I would guess whatever it is it probably has
> little or nothing to do with IDL, which would
> explain why a re-install of IDL wouldn't help.
>
> Do you have automatic updates turned on for this
> machine? Have you updated a JAVA distribution,
> perhaps automatically? Did you update a graphics
> driver? Have you installed any other software in
> the past few days? Do you have a firewall installed
> on this machine to protect against viruses? Does
> other software (MatLab, R, etc.) still work?
>
> Exactly when does IDL crash? Before it even gets
> started? When you open a graphics window? You
> have given us too few clues.
>
> If it helps at all, I've been running IDL 7 on a Windows XP
> machine with 4GByte of RAM for well over three years
> with not a single problem. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> P.S. This isn't a student machine filled with pirated movies,
> is it?
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

This is my office computer, and I keep all my pirated stuff at home.

There was an XP automatic update that I installed this morning, but
after removing it IDL is still crashing. I haven't made any other
changes, updates, or added software in the last few weeks. MatLab and
every other program works fine and the firewall and virus protection
are on and haven't found anything.

IDL starts up and begins analyzing code, then crashes within about 5
seconds. This is the first problem I've had with IDL.

This is the Error Signature I get (I have yet to decipher what, if
anything, it means)

EventType : BEX P1 : idlde.exe P2 : 0.0.0.0 P3 :
46437674
P4 : idl_bml.dll P5 : 7.0.0.0 P6 : 47214e8c P7 :
0000fe6d
P8 : c0000409 P9 : 00000000
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #65366 is a reply to message #65365] Wed, 25 February 2009 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
Senior Member
Dave L writes:

> I'm running IDL 7.0 on Windows XP with 3gb ram. I've had no problems
> for the 5 months I've been using IDL on this computer, then today
> idlde.exe crashed while I was just writing some code. Now it just
> starts up and crashes immediately. I've reinstalled IDL and it's
> still crashing.
>
> Anyone have some idea of what's happening?

I would guess whatever it is it probably has
little or nothing to do with IDL, which would
explain why a re-install of IDL wouldn't help.

Do you have automatic updates turned on for this
machine? Have you updated a JAVA distribution,
perhaps automatically? Did you update a graphics
driver? Have you installed any other software in
the past few days? Do you have a firewall installed
on this machine to protect against viruses? Does
other software (MatLab, R, etc.) still work?

Exactly when does IDL crash? Before it even gets
started? When you open a graphics window? You
have given us too few clues.

If it helps at all, I've been running IDL 7 on a Windows XP
machine with 4GByte of RAM for well over three years
with not a single problem. :-)

Cheers,

David

P.S. This isn't a student machine filled with pirated movies,
is it?


--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Why did IDL just start crashing [message #90132 is a reply to message #65349] Thu, 29 January 2015 12:17 Go to previous message
ianssullivan is currently offline  ianssullivan
Messages: 1
Registered: January 2015
Junior Member
I have used IDL for 10 years without a problem, then suddenly today my IDL sessions (on Windows 7) all crashed within a few seconds of starting IDL. The error listed the fault at idl_bml.dll. This was true for both the command line and the workbench. After trying many things, I came across this thread and removed the hidden workbench directory. That was the solution, and IDL now runs again.

Thanks!
Ian

On Thursday, February 26, 2009 at 11:20:34 AM UTC-8, David Fanning wrote:
> Dave L writes:
>
>> ITT tech support told me to delete the hidden directory of workbench
>> config files (C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\.idl), which
>> apparently isn't removed when you uninstall IDL, and that solved the
>> problem.
>>
>> So was this an IDL issue or an OS issue? Or maybe both?
>
> Ah, that friggin' hidden workbench file. Yes, I've
> had run-ins with this guy before. I'll make a note!
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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