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Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70397] Thu, 08 April 2010 12:37 Go to next message
R.G.Stockwell is currently offline  R.G.Stockwell
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"LNpellen" <lnpellen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ce0f7a05-1e95-427d-8654-6de5bfee3f05@h27g2000yqm.google groups.com...
> Ok - I realize, it is hard...
>
> I hope this changes in the future.
>
> Or I hope the past returns when it was possible to only install VM,
> not the entire IDL just to run .sav files.
>
> Ellen


I don't know if this would help, but a reasonable facsimile can be produced
by creating a large set of 'standard results' save to file, and serving them
from a webpage.

I've done that in the past, with about 5 different input variables, all of
which
could have many (up to 12) possible variables. For instance, global
wavenumber
from -6 to 6, periods ranging from 3hr, 6hr, 8hr, 12hr, 24 hr, 48 hr, etc.

cheers,
bob
Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70398 is a reply to message #70397] Thu, 08 April 2010 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Galloy is currently offline  Michael Galloy
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On 4/8/10 1:09 PM, LNpellen wrote:
> Ok - I realize, it is hard...
>
> I hope this changes in the future.
>
> Or I hope the past returns when it was possible to only install VM,
> not the entire IDL just to run .sav files.

My understanding was that the VM option installed the entire
distribution anyway. Since it didn't actually provide a choice, they
removed it.

MAKE_RT, on the other hand, is quite a nice tool for distribution. I
recently made a bundle for an application that runs on 6 different
platforms. It weighed in at 380M with the save file about 6M and the bin
directories adding up to about 351M:

63M bin.darwin.i386 # 32-bit MacIntel
55M bin.darwin.x86_64 # 64-bit MacIntel
81M bin.linux.x86 # 32-bit Linux
88M bin.linux.x86_64 # 64-bit Linux
35M bin.x86 # 32-bit Windows
29M bin.x86_64 # 64-bit Windows

The resources directory counts for another 20M, so that leaves about 3MB
for launchers and miscellaneous other stuff. What gets copied can be
changed by modifying the manifest file if you so desire, i.e., .dll/.so
files that your app does not need, etc.

Mike
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www.michaelgalloy.com
Research Mathematician
Tech-X Corporation
Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70399 is a reply to message #70398] Thu, 08 April 2010 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LNpellen is currently offline  LNpellen
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Ok - I realize, it is hard...

I hope this changes in the future.

Or I hope the past returns when it was possible to only install VM,
not the entire IDL just to run .sav files.

Ellen
Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70410 is a reply to message #70399] Wed, 07 April 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Galloy is currently offline  Michael Galloy
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On 4/7/10 7:02 AM, David Fanning wrote:
> LNpellen writes:
>
>> I've been reading about ActiveX and callable IDL, but the more I read
>> the more confused I get. Can somebody tell me if the following is
>> possible and where I should start searching for information:
>>
>> I have an IDL application that I'd like to share with many of my
>> colleages on many computers. Installing and maintaining IDL on all
>> these is troublesome so I though I'd rather make an web-application
>> that runs on the intranet. The IDL application has GUI and is quite
>> large (several thousend codelines) and I'd hope to change as little as
>> possible.
>>
>> I'm familiar with html and some visual basic, but I do not understand
>> ActiveX and COM and all this. I read that one should be familiar with
>> the latter to use it, but isn't there an example to reuse and expand?
>> Can it be so hard?
>
> I don't want to discourage you, but I would say this is
> not possible and MUCH harder than you can ever imagine.
> I hope you prove me wrong. :-)

Yes, I agree. I would say you have two primary choices:

1. Forget the web and make a distribution that bundles IDL with your
current application. Check out MAKE_RT (IDL 7.0+ required). This is
pretty easy, even if the users of your app use multiple platforms. For a
start on this, see:

http://michaelgalloy.com/2009/08/04/make_rt-uber-installatio n.html

2. Go to the web, but re-write your application in
HTML-Javascript-etc. and call IDL behind the scenes. This is a *much*
more ambitious choice. There have been some interesting presentations at
the last couple IDL User Group Meetings of people doing this.

Mike
--
www.michaelgalloy.com
Research Mathematician
Tech-X Corporation
Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70411 is a reply to message #70410] Wed, 07 April 2010 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
penteado is currently offline  penteado
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This has been discussed recently:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/browse_t hread/thread/c3fb4f6ce5591b55/
Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70413 is a reply to message #70411] Wed, 07 April 2010 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenneth P. Bowman is currently offline  Kenneth P. Bowman
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In article
<362d9261-d2cd-40bd-bcce-1019e553c06e@e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
LNpellen <lnpellen@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an IDL application that I'd like to share with many of my
> colleages on many computers.

Why not have them log into a server and display the GUI on
their desktop computers with X Windows?

I'm not an MS Windows user, so I don't know if the server can
be a Wintel machine. It might need to be Unix-based.
On the client side X-Windows runs on just about everything
(Unix, Linux, Macs, PC).

Ken Bowman
Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70414 is a reply to message #70413] Wed, 07 April 2010 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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LNpellen writes:

> I've been reading about ActiveX and callable IDL, but the more I read
> the more confused I get. Can somebody tell me if the following is
> possible and where I should start searching for information:
>
> I have an IDL application that I'd like to share with many of my
> colleages on many computers. Installing and maintaining IDL on all
> these is troublesome so I though I'd rather make an web-application
> that runs on the intranet. The IDL application has GUI and is quite
> large (several thousend codelines) and I'd hope to change as little as
> possible.
>
> I'm familiar with html and some visual basic, but I do not understand
> ActiveX and COM and all this. I read that one should be familiar with
> the latter to use it, but isn't there an example to reuse and expand?
> Can it be so hard?

I don't want to discourage you, but I would say this is
not possible and MUCH harder than you can ever imagine.
I hope you prove me wrong. :-)

Cheers,

David


--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Can I make a web application of my IDL program? [message #70432 is a reply to message #70398] Thu, 15 April 2010 12:51 Go to previous message
LNpellen is currently offline  LNpellen
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On Apr 8, 9:32 pm, mgalloy <mgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> MAKE_RT, on the other hand, is quite a nice tool for distribution.
>
>
> Mike
> --www.michaelgalloy.com
> Research Mathematician
> Tech-X Corporation

I think I have misunderstood the MAKE_RT a bit. First I thought it was
an unix only command, and second I though one needed to buy a
specified licence pr application to export. I think I should try out
this option.

Ellen
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