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Thu, 22 July 2010 13:00

bokubo
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IDL 8.0 is now available for download from the ITT VIS website. This
is a major, significant development effort for IDL that includes:
- Graphics That Are Powerful Yet Easy - New graphics functions for
plot, surface, contour, image and map create dynamic, presentation-
quality visualizations.
- Enhanced, Expanded Programming Language - New control features, core
data types and a modern scripting syntax that is familiar makes
developing IDL code and applications fast and easy.
- Simplified, More Intuitive Development Environment - The IDL
workbench has been streamlined so it's easier to create, edit and
debug your IDL code.
- Redesigned Help System - The online help has been redesigned to make
it easier to learn IDL with a focus on tasks and “how to” in IDL.

License administrators for licenses that are current on maintenance
will receive an email about how to upgrade to IDL 8.0. For more
information about IDL 8.0, visit http://www.ittvis.com/ProductServices/IDL/LatestRelease.aspx .

Bill Okubo, IDL Product Manager

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #71893 is a reply to message #71859]

Mon, 26 July 2010 10:11

Michael Galloy
Messages: 1114
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

On 7/26/10 11:01 AM, David Fanning wrote:
> P.S. Alright, I understand the marketing decisions that might
> cause you to want the Help system to open up on its very front
> page when you first open it up. But couldn't we at least figure
> out a way that the Help system opened up in the last tab you
> were in before you closed it? Heck, I would be happy if it just
> did this is the current IDL session! This is one of those things
> that just cause me to shake my head. :-(

Yes, issues like that quickly add up to a lot of usability (or lack of it).

Mike
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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #71895 is a reply to message #71859]

Mon, 26 July 2010 10:01

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

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mgalloy writes:

> Next topic is the new help system:
>
> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/07/26/idl-8-0-help.html

What do you think it would take to get the Help system to
open itself in the Index tab? An act of Congress? A complete
boycott of IDL? Sheesh!

Cheers,

David

P.S. Alright, I understand the marketing decisions that might
cause you to want the Help system to open up on its very front
page when you first open it up. But couldn't we at least figure
out a way that the Help system opened up in the last tab you
were in before you closed it? Heck, I would be happy if it just
did this is the current IDL session! This is one of those things
that just cause me to shake my head. :-(

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #72007 is a reply to message #71859]

Fri, 30 July 2010 07:40

penteado
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On Jul 30, 11:15 am, Paul van Delst <paul.vande...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> Given the fact that there is an "_overload" prefix, I would've thought it easy to correctly parse everything between
> that and the next "," to correctly interpret the operator or operation to be overloaded.

I suppose it is to make the classes still possible to compile in
earlier versions of IDL. Yes, the overloading would not be usable with
those versions, but the rest of the class could still be used
(provided none of the new syntax is used in the code that will get
used). This way, one just needs to make a dummy IDL_Object class to
inherit from, as Michael Galloy suggests.

So it makes easier the transition period (which can be awfully long,
due to the unresponsiveness of those sysadmins that I have met; I have
not been as lucky as Paul).

> BTW, does IDL 8.0 have the ability to create user defined operators?

I think only those predefined operators can be used.

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #72026 is a reply to message #71859]

Wed, 04 August 2010 11:00

penteado
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I have created a new combined binary distribution to use with make_rt,
similar to the one mentioned in

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/browse_t hread/thread/da1107a2c215c3ec#

but for IDL 8. It contains binaries (both 32 and 64-bit) for Linux,
Windows, and Mac. Apparently the PPC Mac binaries have been dropped
from the IDL distribution. They can be found at

http://www.ppenteado.net/idl/idl71_rt.html

The old files, for IDL 7.1, are still there as well.

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #72043 is a reply to message #71859]

Tue, 03 August 2010 12:10

Michael Galloy
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Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

On 8/3/10 12:50 PM, Heinz Stege wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:36:12 -0600, mgalloy wrote:
>
>> The new Workbench:
>>
>> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/03/idl-8-0-idl-workbench.ht ml
>>
>> I think there will be two more articles: the new graphics system and
>> other language changes.
>>
>> Mike
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> very nice articles. I have to add something to the workbench blog. The
> perspectives are not gone. There are four perspectives after IDL
> installation. But there seems to be a bug, which makes them invisible.
>
> You can make them visible again. (At least till the next restart of
> the workbench.) Go to the Windows -> Preferences menu, choose General
> -> Appearance. Then you can set the "Perspective switcher positions"
> from "Top Right" to "Left" (and press the Apply button).
>
> Now you can see an "Open Perspective" button and one or more
> perspective buttons near the left border off the workbench. The button
> of the active perspective has a context menu with "Save As ..." and
> other commands.
>
> Too bad, that there is no help file for the workbench anymore :-(

Ah, thanks for the tip! I will add a link to your message.

Mike
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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #72044 is a reply to message #71859]

Tue, 03 August 2010 11:50

Heinz Stege
Messages: 189
Registered: January 2003

Senior Member

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:36:12 -0600, mgalloy wrote:

> The new Workbench:
>
> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/03/idl-8-0-idl-workbench.ht ml
>
> I think there will be two more articles: the new graphics system and
> other language changes.
>
> Mike

Hi Mike,

very nice articles. I have to add something to the workbench blog. The
perspectives are not gone. There are four perspectives after IDL
installation. But there seems to be a bug, which makes them invisible.

You can make them visible again. (At least till the next restart of
the workbench.) Go to the Windows -> Preferences menu, choose General
-> Appearance. Then you can set the "Perspective switcher positions"
from "Top Right" to "Left" (and press the Apply button).

Now you can see an "Open Perspective" button and one or more
perspective buttons near the left border off the workbench. The button
of the active perspective has a context menu with "Save As ..." and
other commands.

Too bad, that there is no help file for the workbench anymore :-(

Heinz

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #72075 is a reply to message #71859]

Thu, 12 August 2010 12:33

Michael Galloy
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Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

On 8/9/10 4:04 PM, mgalloy wrote:
> On 8/3/10 11:36 AM, mgalloy wrote:
>> On 7/27/10 11:13 AM, mgalloy wrote:
>>> On 7/26/10 10:50 AM, mgalloy wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/10 3:17 PM, mgalloy wrote:
>>>> > I'll again go through a few of the new features of the release on my
>>>> > site. The first topic is the new list and hash types:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/07/22/idl-8-0-lists-and-hashes .html
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>>
>>>> Next topic is the new help system:
>>>>
>>>> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/07/26/idl-8-0-help.html
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>> Operator overloading:
>>>
>>> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/07/27/idl-8-0-operator-overloa ding.html
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> The new Workbench:
>>
>> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/03/idl-8-0-idl-workbench.ht ml
>>
>> I think there will be two more articles: the new graphics system and
>> other language changes.
>>
>> Mike
>
> Here's the article on other language changes, i.e., negative subscripts,
> !null, automatic garbage collection, and other changes to object syntax:
>
> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/09/idl-8-0-other-language-c hanges.html
>
> Mike

The new graphics interface:

http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/12/idl-8-0-a-new-graphics-i nterface.html

I think I'll have one more article to wrap-up some misc notes about IDL 8.0.

Mike
--
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Research Mathematician
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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #72248 is a reply to message #71859]

Thu, 19 August 2010 12:59

Matt Haffner
Messages: 34
Registered: October 2000

Member

A few more 8.0 tips:

* The new help system is missing a lot of old documentation. For
example, unless I'm really overlooking something, the details of
object implementation and syntax for coding custom objects is not
there. The "Objects" topic mostly describes just the built-in classes.
However, PDFs are available in idl/help/pdf/. They look to be fairly
unchanged from the 7.x versions despite the "June 2010" on the cover.
They don't seem to have any of the new 8.0 language features, in
particular.

* This may have been more obvious to those of you that had been using
objects and tracking 8.0 improvements, but I'm just starting to use
them with 8.0. In the "Modifying Object Properties" help topic, it
states:

"If your object inherits from the IDL_Object class, you can set or
change the object's properties after object initialization by calling
the property directly using the dot operator..."

I naively thought this meant that default get/set methods were built
into the IDL_Object superclass, but they're not. As the "What's New"
topic states, you have to provide SetProperty and GetProperty methods.
IDL_Object is just providing the operator overloading.

- mh

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #72258 is a reply to message #72075]

Thu, 19 August 2010 09:56

Michael Galloy
Messages: 1114
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

On 8/12/10 1:33 PM, mgalloy wrote:
> On 8/9/10 4:04 PM, mgalloy wrote:
>> On 8/3/10 11:36 AM, mgalloy wrote:
>>> On 7/27/10 11:13 AM, mgalloy wrote:
>>>> On 7/26/10 10:50 AM, mgalloy wrote:
>>>> > On 7/22/10 3:17 PM, mgalloy wrote:
>>>> >> I'll again go through a few of the new features of the release on my
>>>> >> site. The first topic is the new list and hash types:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/07/22/idl-8-0-lists-and-hashes .html
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mike
>>>> >
>>>> > Next topic is the new help system:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/07/26/idl-8-0-help.html
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Operator overloading:
>>>>
>>>> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/07/27/idl-8-0-operator-overloa ding.html
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> The new Workbench:
>>>
>>> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/03/idl-8-0-idl-workbench.ht ml
>>>
>>> I think there will be two more articles: the new graphics system and
>>> other language changes.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Here's the article on other language changes, i.e., negative subscripts,
>> !null, automatic garbage collection, and other changes to object syntax:
>>
>> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/09/idl-8-0-other-language-c hanges.html
>>
>> Mike
>
> The new graphics interface:
>
> http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/12/idl-8-0-a-new-graphics-i nterface.html
>
> I think I'll have one more article to wrap-up some misc notes about IDL
> 8.0.
>
> Mike

IDL 8.0 wrap-up is here:

http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/19/idl-8-0-wrap-up.html

I also had an article about distribution/licensing changes:

http://michaelgalloy.com/2010/08/18/idl-8-0-distributionlice nsing.html

That's all the 8.0 stuff I have for now.

Mike
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Research Mathematician
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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #84260 is a reply to message #71859]

Fri, 10 May 2013 01:03

huiqiang.liu.37
Messages: 19
Registered: April 2013

Junior Member

Hi,
the link you supply can't be opened, could you post an available site?

Thanks!

On Friday, July 23, 2010 5:00:43 AM UTC+9, BillO wrote:
> IDL 8.0 is now available for download from the ITT VIS website. This
> is a major, significant development effort for IDL that includes:
> - Graphics That Are Powerful Yet Easy - New graphics functions for
> plot, surface, contour, image and map create dynamic, presentation-
> quality visualizations.
> - Enhanced, Expanded Programming Language - New control features, core
> data types and a modern scripting syntax that is familiar makes
> developing IDL code and applications fast and easy.
> - Simplified, More Intuitive Development Environment - The IDL
> workbench has been streamlined so it's easier to create, edit and
> debug your IDL code.
> - Redesigned Help System - The online help has been redesigned to make
> it easier to learn IDL with a focus on tasks and “how to” in IDL.
>
> License administrators for licenses that are current on maintenance
> will receive an email about how to upgrade to IDL 8.0. For more
> information about IDL 8.0, visit http://www.ittvis.com/ProductServices/IDL/LatestRelease.aspx .
>
> Bill Okubo, IDL Product Manager

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #84304 is a reply to message #71859]

Wed, 15 May 2013 17:14

Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997

Senior Member

That is because v8.0 is old and is no longer offered publicly. The latest version is v8.2.2, which you can find at the exelisvis web site. If you really need v8.0, i suggest you open a support case with them.

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:53:56 AM UTC-4, Huiqiang Liu wrote:
> i login the exelisvis.com and have not found the download of IDL 8.0.
>
>
>
> anyone could post a effective website for that?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>> IDL 8.0 is now available for download from the ITT VIS website. This
>
>> is a major, significant development effort for IDL that includes:
>
>> - Graphics That Are Powerful Yet Easy - New graphics functions for
>
>> plot, surface, contour, image and map create dynamic, presentation-
>
>> quality visualizations.
>
>> - Enhanced, Expanded Programming Language - New control features, core
>
>> data types and a modern scripting syntax that is familiar makes
>
>> developing IDL code and applications fast and easy.
>
>> - Simplified, More Intuitive Development Environment - The IDL
>
>> workbench has been streamlined so it's easier to create, edit and
>
>> debug your IDL code.
>
>> - Redesigned Help System - The online help has been redesigned to make
>
>> it easier to learn IDL with a focus on tasks and “how to” in IDL.
>
>>
>
>> License administrators for licenses that are current on maintenance
>
>> will receive an email about how to upgrade to IDL 8.0. For more
>
>> information about IDL 8.0, visit http://www.ittvis.com/ProductServices/IDL/LatestRelease.aspx .
>
>>
>
>> Bill Okubo, IDL Product Manager

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #84316 is a reply to message #71859]

Wed, 15 May 2013 01:53

huiqiang.liu.37
Messages: 19
Registered: April 2013

Junior Member

i login the exelisvis.com and have not found the download of IDL 8.0.

anyone could post a effective website for that?

Thanks

> IDL 8.0 is now available for download from the ITT VIS website. This
> is a major, significant development effort for IDL that includes:
> - Graphics That Are Powerful Yet Easy - New graphics functions for
> plot, surface, contour, image and map create dynamic, presentation-
> quality visualizations.
> - Enhanced, Expanded Programming Language - New control features, core
> data types and a modern scripting syntax that is familiar makes
> developing IDL code and applications fast and easy.
> - Simplified, More Intuitive Development Environment - The IDL
> workbench has been streamlined so it's easier to create, edit and
> debug your IDL code.
> - Redesigned Help System - The online help has been redesigned to make
> it easier to learn IDL with a focus on tasks and “how to” in IDL.
>
> License administrators for licenses that are current on maintenance
> will receive an email about how to upgrade to IDL 8.0. For more
> information about IDL 8.0, visit http://www.ittvis.com/ProductServices/IDL/LatestRelease.aspx .
>
> Bill Okubo, IDL Product Manager

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Re: IDL 8.0 now available [message #84331 is a reply to message #84260]

Mon, 13 May 2013 08:56

Michael Galloy
Messages: 1114
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

ExelisVIS has updated their website recently. I believe the way to
download something now is to login to your account from exelisvis.com.
Then go to the downloads tab. I don't think you will be able to get IDL
8.0 though, IDL 8.2.2 is the current version.

-Mike

On 5/10/13 2:03 AM, Huiqiang Liu wrote:
> Hi,
> the link you supply can't be opened, could you post an available site?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Friday, July 23, 2010 5:00:43 AM UTC+9, BillO wrote:
>> IDL 8.0 is now available for download from the ITT VIS website. This
>> is a major, significant development effort for IDL that includes:
>> - Graphics That Are Powerful Yet Easy - New graphics functions for
>> plot, surface, contour, image and map create dynamic, presentation-
>> quality visualizations.
>> - Enhanced, Expanded Programming Language - New control features, core
>> data types and a modern scripting syntax that is familiar makes
>> developing IDL code and applications fast and easy.
>> - Simplified, More Intuitive Development Environment - The IDL
>> workbench has been streamlined so it's easier to create, edit and
>> debug your IDL code.
>> - Redesigned Help System - The online help has been redesigned to make
>> it easier to learn IDL with a focus on tasks and ï¿½how toï¿½ in IDL.
>>
>> License administrators for licenses that are current on maintenance
>> will receive an email about how to upgrade to IDL 8.0. For more
>> information about IDL 8.0, visit http://www.ittvis.com/ProductServices/IDL/LatestRelease.aspx .
>>
>> Bill Okubo, IDL Product Manager
>

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Michael Galloy
www.michaelgalloy.com
Modern IDL: A Guide to IDL Programming (http://modernidl.idldev.com)
Research Mathematician
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