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Re: difference between DEM and DSM [message #71972] Sun, 01 August 2010 02:00
Klemen is currently offline  Klemen
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On Jul 30, 10:46 pm, "skymaxw...@gmail.com" <skymaxw...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> i was looking in Wikipedia, but there is very brief information about
> DSM.
>
> i haven't any LIDAR data so there is no point cloud. I have only high
> resolution panchromatic satellite images.
>
> so, to create DSM
> i must interpolate the elevation values (for example from DEM) at each
> point (each pixel) to a grid ?
> how define size of grid ?
>
> Where i can see more details about creating DSM ?
>
> Thanks

Hi, perhaps this is not the right forum to ask such a question. This
is not an IDL issue at all.

However, to generate a DSM, you need data with surface elevation. A
source might be even panchromatic satellite images but then would be
better to use a photogrametric software to generate a DSM. The size of
grid depends on the resolution of your data - use simply the same as
input.

You probably won't find many details on DSM creation, because most are
interested into DEM creation.

Cheers, Klemen
Re: difference between DEM and DSM [message #71982 is a reply to message #71972] Fri, 30 July 2010 13:46 Go to previous message
skymaxwell@gmail.com is currently offline  skymaxwell@gmail.com
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i was looking in Wikipedia, but there is very brief information about
DSM.

i haven't any LIDAR data so there is no point cloud. I have only high
resolution panchromatic satellite images.

so, to create DSM
i must interpolate the elevation values (for example from DEM) at each
point (each pixel) to a grid ?
how define size of grid ?


Where i can see more details about creating DSM ?

Thanks
Re: difference between DEM and DSM [message #71985 is a reply to message #71982] Fri, 30 July 2010 10:52 Go to previous message
Ben Kamphaus is currently offline  Ben Kamphaus
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Yeah, the DSM is the easy one if you're working with a LiDAR point
cloud, for example. To create the DSM you'll just interpolate the
elevation values at each point to a grid. The DEM/DTM extraction
(also called bare earth extraction) requires some sort of
morphological filtering process to be applied to either the DSM or the
point cloud. If the filter operates on the DSM, it removes outlier /
feature values and replaces them with interpolated values to preserve
the morphology of the ground values. If the filter operates on the
point cloud, it will sort the points into ground and non-ground then a
separate interpolated grid will be calculated from only the ground
points.

On Jul 30, 11:43 am, Mort Canty <m.ca...@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
> Am 30.07.2010 16:52, schrieb skymaxw...@gmail.com:
>
>> Good day !
>
>> I want create digital elevation model (DEM) and digital surface
>> model(DSM) by IDL.
>> I know how to do DEM, but how build DSM ?
>> What data required to build it and what theory ? Any links to read
>> about this subject will appreciate.
>
>> Thanks
>
> Wikipedia?
>
> A digital elevation model - also sometimes called a digital terrain
> model (DTM) - generally refers to a representation of the Earth's
> surface (or subset of this), excluding features such as vegetation,
> buildings, bridges, etc. The DEM often comprises much of the raw
> dataset, which may have been acquired through techniques such as
> photogrammetry, LiDAR, IfSAR, land surveying, etc. A digital surface
> model (DSM) on the other hand includes buildings, vegetation, and roads,
> as well as natural terrain features.  The DEM provides a so-called
> bare-earth model, devoid of landscape features. While a DSM may be
> useful for landscape modeling, city modeling and visualization
> applications, a DEM is often required for flood or drainage modeling,
> land-use studies, geological applications, and much more.
Re: difference between DEM and DSM [message #71986 is a reply to message #71985] Fri, 30 July 2010 10:43 Go to previous message
Mort Canty is currently offline  Mort Canty
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Am 30.07.2010 16:52, schrieb skymaxwell@gmail.com:
> Good day !
>
>
> I want create digital elevation model (DEM) and digital surface
> model(DSM) by IDL.
> I know how to do DEM, but how build DSM ?
> What data required to build it and what theory ? Any links to read
> about this subject will appreciate.
>
>
> Thanks
>

Wikipedia?

A digital elevation model - also sometimes called a digital terrain
model (DTM) - generally refers to a representation of the Earth's
surface (or subset of this), excluding features such as vegetation,
buildings, bridges, etc. The DEM often comprises much of the raw
dataset, which may have been acquired through techniques such as
photogrammetry, LiDAR, IfSAR, land surveying, etc. A digital surface
model (DSM) on the other hand includes buildings, vegetation, and roads,
as well as natural terrain features. The DEM provides a so-called
bare-earth model, devoid of landscape features. While a DSM may be
useful for landscape modeling, city modeling and visualization
applications, a DEM is often required for flood or drainage modeling,
land-use studies, geological applications, and much more.
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