| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74017] |
Fri, 17 December 2010 01:51  |
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Maarten[1]
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On Dec 16, 9:42 pm, Paul van Delst <paul.vande...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> What tex/latex graphics package do you use to include the files in your tex
> docs? Without changing anything in my document preamble, I just replaced my
> usual .eps plot file with a .pdf one (generated from v8 "Function Graphics")
> in my tex file and the quality of the result was terrible. I've obviously
> done something wrong somewhere.
>
> I'm on linux by the way.
Which distro? Some linux distribution include a genuinely ancient tex
setup. Especially with handling pdf the good changes have happened in
the last few years. Best advice I have is to use texlive - http://tug.org/texlive/
Before you muck about with new software, make sure you call pdflatex,
rather than (plain) latex. The actual binary is the same, but the in-
and output filters are different. Most packages (including the
standard graphicx and graphics) will autodetect which variant you use,
and set things up correctly.
I've been using pdf(la)tex for years, and the result is always good.
Some of the newer typographic trickery (optical right margins) is only
available in pdftex. But I digress into another hobby I have.
Maarten
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74020 is a reply to message #74019] |
Thu, 16 December 2010 18:14  |
Jeremy Bailin
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On Dec 16, 5:28 pm, JM <j...@dmu.ac.uk> wrote:
> Paul,
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> I use TeXShop, which is simply a front-end designed specifically for
> OS X. Underneath is, I believe, a fairly typical TeX installation.
> I've rarely found the need to alter any of the defaults, so I'm not
> too sure what's going on behind the scenes. The default typesetting is
> 'LaTeX' and the default script is 'Pdftex' (one of the other options
> being 'TeX + DVI') -- perhaps that's it, do you have a 'Pdftex' option
> under linux?
>
> Here's a link to a report I compiled using TeXShop where nearly all
> the figures were PDF graphics (originally produced as EPS):
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> http://www.thedaylightsite.com/showarticle.asp?id=166&tp =6
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> Figures are absolutely identical to the EPS originals, but PDF has
> smaller filesizes and near instantaneous on-screen rendering. The OS X
> Maill application will perfectly render attached PDF graphics, which
> is handy for quick exchange.
>
> John
Well, this is what my journal guidelines say:
Authors using LaTeX need to have their figure files in EPS format
-Jeremy.
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74023 is a reply to message #74022] |
Thu, 16 December 2010 14:19 |
David Gell
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On Dec 16, 9:34 am, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm writing a short section to today on viewing and printing
> PostScript files (especially on non-PostScript printers).
> I know about GhostScript and GSView, which I use on Windows,
> but I'm less familiar with what Macintosh people use, and with
> alternatives to GhostScript.
>
> What do you use to view and print PostScript files?
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.dfanning.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
My choice if I've only one or two files to convert is preview. After
opening the files, I can rotate to landscape and save. For lots of
files, I've a small applescript script that invokes adobe acrobat to
open the files, convert to PDF rotate and save. I use the script
because one of my IDL applications is the analysis of calibration data
which can generate enormous numbers of plots.
Preview is my first choice because it is free. Acrobat is my second
choice because it isn't. I've also used ghostscript on the mac but
find preview and Acrobat much more convenient.
David Gell
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74024 is a reply to message #74023] |
Thu, 16 December 2010 12:42 |
Paul Van Delst[1]
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Hello,
JM wrote:
>> PDF, by its nature, is not very amenable to be embedded in other
>> things. That is the whole point of the E in EPS (encapsulated).
>
> Perhaps on other platforms, but definitely not so on Mac OS X. The OS
> X imaging system has a layer that "correlates well with the PDF object
> graph". What it means is, you can drop PDF graphics with ease into
> Pages, Keynote and Omnigraffle. And compiling a TeX document is much,
> much quicker if the referenced graphics are already PDF - the graphics
> are just "stitched-in" to the compiled PDF rather than having to be
> distilled from EPS.
What tex/latex graphics package do you use to include the files in your tex docs? Without changing anything in my
document preamble, I just replaced my usual .eps plot file with a .pdf one (generated from v8 "Function Graphics") in my
tex file and the quality of the result was terrible. I've obviously done something wrong somewhere.
I'm on linux by the way.
> A neat trick that you can do with any PDF document (or graphic) is, in
> Preview, select any rectangular region, cmd-C to copy it to the paste
> buffer. Then, in say, Keynote, cmd-V and the object appears -- full
> PDF (i.e. vector) character preserved. This also means that graphics
> are *not* degraded in any way at all. It really is a breeze to
> produce consistently high-quality PDF copy, and I can't imagine any
> one who can freely choose [1] opting for something less.
> [1] Stasi-like IT support notwithstanding.
Disregarding the usual inertia, I think the policy makers and bean counters have more to say about it than the IT folks.
Just my opinion of course, and not meant to represent any position of my employer(s).
cheers,
paulv
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74025 is a reply to message #74024] |
Thu, 16 December 2010 12:09 |
JM[1]
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> PDF, by its nature, is not very amenable to be embedded in other
> things. That is the whole point of the E in EPS (encapsulated).
Perhaps on other platforms, but definitely not so on Mac OS X. The OS
X imaging system has a layer that "correlates well with the PDF object
graph". What it means is, you can drop PDF graphics with ease into
Pages, Keynote and Omnigraffle. And compiling a TeX document is much,
much quicker if the referenced graphics are already PDF - the graphics
are just "stitched-in" to the compiled PDF rather than having to be
distilled from EPS.
A neat trick that you can do with any PDF document (or graphic) is, in
Preview, select any rectangular region, cmd-C to copy it to the paste
buffer. Then, in say, Keynote, cmd-V and the object appears -- full
PDF (i.e. vector) character preserved. This also means that graphics
are *not* degraded in any way at all. It really is a breeze to
produce consistently high-quality PDF copy, and I can't imagine any
one who can freely choose [1] opting for something less.
JM
[1] Stasi-like IT support notwithstanding.
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74030 is a reply to message #74025] |
Thu, 16 December 2010 10:02 |
penteado
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On Dec 16, 3:51 pm, JM <j...@dmu.ac.uk> wrote:
> On the Mac I don't believe there can be many reasons to keep any eps
> files, unless it's to be compatible with some other software and/or
> collaborators. I tail all my plotting procedures with a command that
> SPAWNS epstopdf to convert the postscript graphic to PDF and then
> delete the postscript. The PDF filesize is always smaller, sometimes
> by a huge margin, and, of course, the PDF graphic can be used in
> Pages, Keynote, TeXShop, Omnigraffle, etc.
PDF, by its nature, is not very amenable to be embedded in other
things. That is the whole point of the E in EPS (encapsulated).
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74032 is a reply to message #74030] |
Thu, 16 December 2010 09:51 |
JM[1]
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On the Mac I don't believe there can be many reasons to keep any eps
files, unless it's to be compatible with some other software and/or
collaborators. I tail all my plotting procedures with a command that
SPAWNS epstopdf to convert the postscript graphic to PDF and then
delete the postscript. The PDF filesize is always smaller, sometimes
by a huge margin, and, of course, the PDF graphic can be used in
Pages, Keynote, TeXShop, Omnigraffle, etc.
JM
Dr. John Mardaljevic
Reader in Daylight Modelling
Institute of Energy and Sustainable Development
De Montfort University
The Gateway
Leicester
LE1 9BH, UK
+44 (0) 116 257 7972
+44 (0) 116 257 7981 (fax)
jm@dmu.ac.uk
http://www.iesd.dmu.ac.uk/~jm
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74033 is a reply to message #74032] |
Thu, 16 December 2010 09:51 |
natha
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On Dec 16, 11:08 am, Michael Galloy <mgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/16/10 7:34 AM, David Fanning wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>
>> I'm writing a short section to today on viewing and printing
>> PostScript files (especially on non-PostScript printers).
>> I know about GhostScript and GSView, which I use on Windows,
>> but I'm less familiar with what Macintosh people use, and with
>> alternatives to GhostScript.
>
>> What do you use to view and print PostScript files?
>
> Preview, which comes with Mac OS X mostly for viewing PDF and image
> files, will automatically convert a PostScript file to a PDF for
> viewing/printing.
The only problem with preview is when you have PostScripts with non-
standard dimensions, for example 50x20.
It seems that the final conversion to PDF is not correct (or maybe I'm
missing something). The final file is cut and you will miss some
information.
nata
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| Re: Viewing and Printing PostScript Files [message #74154 is a reply to message #74030] |
Mon, 20 December 2010 07:27 |
Kenneth P. Bowman
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In article
<335199ad-8169-40c4-85e4-047064178330@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Paulo Penteado <pp.penteado@gmail.com> wrote:
> PDF, by its nature, is not very amenable to be embedded in other
> things. That is the whole point of the E in EPS (encapsulated).
To follow up on this discussion for Mac users, I wholeheartedly endorse
converting from PS to PDF for direct graphics, and directly to PDF
for new graphics. You can use Preview to view PS or PDF files and
extract individual pages from multipage PDF files for editing.
For TeX users, the TeXShop front end works very well with PDF files.
Illustrator is also essential for tweaking files and for converting
back to PS or EPS if required.
Ken Bowman
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