| Re: Yesterday's Coyote Graphics Update [message #75173] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 08:55 |
David Fanning
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Paul van Delst writes:
> similar for pragmatic programmers, and manning publishers - they contact me, and I have an online library when I log
> into my "bookshelf" at their sites where I can see what needs to be updated/re-downloaded.
Yes, I put "Learn PHP and MySQL Development" on my ToDo list
already. :-)
Cheers,
David
P.S. Tagged release available in the repository.
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Yesterday's Coyote Graphics Update [message #75174 is a reply to message #75173] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 08:48  |
Paul Van Delst[1]
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Paulo Penteado wrote:
> On Feb 18, 1:39 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
>> The most nerve wracking part of book publishing is
>> the point where you have to hit that send button
>> and commit your ignorance and folly to what appears
>> to be stone. It is *extremely* difficult to do!
>>
>> OK, I know the book is not perfect. I also know it
>> is not because of lack of effort or foolishness.
>> Ignorance probably plays a big role. Deep breath....
>
> Another advantage of electronic formats. Softer stone to edit.
>
> For some book I bought from O'Reilly, I got email notifications when
> there were updates available to download.
similar for pragmatic programmers, and manning publishers - they contact me, and I have an online library when I log
into my "bookshelf" at their sites where I can see what needs to be updated/re-downloaded.
> Also, I would suggest, if possible, to enable in the PDFs commenting
> through Acrobat Reader. That way people without the full Acrobat can
> put annotations on the text. I think that Kindle already allows notes
> on every book. The inability to make annotations is one of the reasons
> some people have to prefer printed copies.
Ooo... that's a good idea. I never did that in my paper books (grew up using library books) so doing it for my pdf books
never occurred to me. Kewl.
cheers,
paulv
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| Re: Yesterday's Coyote Graphics Update [message #75177 is a reply to message #75174] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 08:14 |
David Fanning
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Matteo Romano writes:
> I am excited to see how you lead this group discussion on the IDL
> language. It is very useful for my work with IDL. I would like to be
> able to purchase your book in the printed way, but I also notice that
> you have the chance to make many updates to the programs in the book
> (cg*.pro). Can I ask how the book shall keep in line with the updated
> programs? Is there a chance the book will be out of date when new
> programs are on your website? I hope there is some way to solve this
> problem.
Yes, there is *every* chance of that! Thank you for
reminding me. :-)
Here is how it works. When I work up enough courage
(and raise enough funds, but that's another story)
to commit this book to the printer I will also "freeze"
the code I used to produce the book. This goes into
a special area of my web page devoted to the book.
So, if you want to read the book and work with the programs
in *exactly* the way it is described in the book, the programs
are available to do so.
But, as you point out, the programs are likely out of date.
That is the reality. Life doesn't stop when you finish
a book. You still need to take out the garbage, as my
wife so lovingly reminded me this morning. If you want
the *latest* programs, they are always available (on what
seems to be an hourly schedule lately!) on my web page.
When I develop programs I am always mindful that programs
should be backward compatible unless there is an EXTREMELY
compelling reason not to be. (The big name change recently
seemed a sufficiently compelling reason to me, given my
future plans, etc.) So, even the *new*, constantly
developing programs should "work" with the book. But they
might (I would expect them to) have new features, bug fixes,
etc., that are not described in the book. Not much I can
do about that. It is the nature of the book business.
But, I can do a LOT about the PDF version of the book.
I can fix typos, thank God! So, if you want to be
completely up to date, I should think in addition to the
paperback version of the book, you might also want to
purchase a PDF version of the book.
I don't have an official "policy" about replacing PDF
files, but I am known to be a soft touch when someone
contacts me personally and lavishes praise on me. :-)
I'm saying, if you buy something from me, I generally
remember who you are and I feel grateful I don't
have to work for a living. You will probably get an
update from me.
Does that satisfy you?
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Yesterday's Coyote Graphics Update [message #75178 is a reply to message #75177] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 08:07 |
penteado
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On Feb 18, 1:39 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> The most nerve wracking part of book publishing is
> the point where you have to hit that send button
> and commit your ignorance and folly to what appears
> to be stone. It is *extremely* difficult to do!
>
> OK, I know the book is not perfect. I also know it
> is not because of lack of effort or foolishness.
> Ignorance probably plays a big role. Deep breath....
Another advantage of electronic formats. Softer stone to edit.
For some book I bought from O'Reilly, I got email notifications when
there were updates available to download.
Also, I would suggest, if possible, to enable in the PDFs commenting
through Acrobat Reader. That way people without the full Acrobat can
put annotations on the text. I think that Kindle already allows notes
on every book. The inability to make annotations is one of the reasons
some people have to prefer printed copies.
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| Re: Yesterday's Coyote Graphics Update [message #75179 is a reply to message #75178] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 07:43 |
Matteo Romano
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On Feb 18, 8:15 am, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> That last Coyote Graphics update yesterday was a bit
> of a bust. :-(
>
> I was fooling around trying to get a keyword inheritance
> issue to work, and when I was unsuccessful, I didn't
> manage to back all the way out of my changes. In particular,
> cgImage, cgPlot, cgSurf, and cgContour were put in a condition
> where it was impossible to pass keyword values to them in
> resizeable windows. Yikes!
>
> There has been a corrective update today, which I think
> will put everything back to normal, while still preserving
> some of the PostScript solutions we were working on yesterday,
> too.
>
> Sorry for the mix-up. I should have taken more time with
> that.
>
> http://www.idlcoyote.com/programs/coyoteprograms.zip
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.idlcoyote.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Dear Dr Fanning,
I am excited to see how you lead this group discussion on the IDL
language. It is very useful for my work with IDL. I would like to be
able to purchase your book in the printed way, but I also notice that
you have the chance to make many updates to the programs in the book
(cg*.pro). Can I ask how the book shall keep in line with the updated
programs? Is there a chance the book will be out of date when new
programs are on your website? I hope there is some way to solve this
problem.
Sincerely,
Matteo.
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| Re: Yesterday's Coyote Graphics Update [message #75180 is a reply to message #75179] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 07:39 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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Paul van Delst writes:
> What revision # does that correspond to in your repo? I just checked the tags directory but the latest I see is dated
> 20110103 (which, BTW, doesn't appear to include your catalyst library.)
I haven't tagged these yet because I have been
waiting for them to go 2 hours without being changed.
Sigh... I should do this.
The most nerve wracking part of book publishing is
the point where you have to hit that send button
and commit your ignorance and folly to what appears
to be stone. It is *extremely* difficult to do!
OK, I know the book is not perfect. I also know it
is not because of lack of effort or foolishness.
Ignorance probably plays a big role. Deep breath....
Alright, I am going to go tag this release right now.
Wish me luck. :-(
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Yesterday's Coyote Graphics Update [message #75183 is a reply to message #75180] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 07:26 |
Paul Van Delst[1]
Messages: 1157
Registered: April 2002
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What revision # does that correspond to in your repo? I just checked the tags directory but the latest I see is dated
20110103 (which, BTW, doesn't appear to include your catalyst library.)
cheers,
paulv
David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
>
> That last Coyote Graphics update yesterday was a bit
> of a bust. :-(
>
> I was fooling around trying to get a keyword inheritance
> issue to work, and when I was unsuccessful, I didn't
> manage to back all the way out of my changes. In particular,
> cgImage, cgPlot, cgSurf, and cgContour were put in a condition
> where it was impossible to pass keyword values to them in
> resizeable windows. Yikes!
>
> There has been a corrective update today, which I think
> will put everything back to normal, while still preserving
> some of the PostScript solutions we were working on yesterday,
> too.
>
> Sorry for the mix-up. I should have taken more time with
> that.
>
> http://www.idlcoyote.com/programs/coyoteprograms.zip
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
>
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