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EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75568] Fri, 01 April 2011 12:49 Go to next message
Matt[3] is currently offline  Matt[3]
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Hi All,

I see that something like this has been posted several times before,
but I can't seem to find a simple solution...

I'm generating eps contour plots using David Fanning's great new
routines and the /cell_fill option. However, some of them have the
well-known 'stripe' effect that is discussed in David's book. My
question is this: How can I convert these eps files to pdf format
without the stripes, and without the pdfs files being too large? If I
use ImageMagick with +antialias, I can only get the fonts to look nice
if I really crank up the density, which leads to huge pdfs. I'm
assuming that this is because they are first converted to raster
images and then to pdf. Is there a way to keep this all in vector
format? The file size is a problem, because it makes the document
they are going into huge, and very slow to navigate (and the plots
don't seem to look great in some viewers).

At the moment I'm just doing the conversion using epstopdf.

I know that this isn't really an IDL question, but if anyone has found
a solution, it'd be very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Matt
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75681 is a reply to message #75568] Tue, 05 April 2011 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Heinz Stege is currently offline  Heinz Stege
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:18:00 -0600, David Fanning wrote:

> Of course, there is always the possibility that
> the software we are using to *view* the PostScript
> and PDF files are screwing it up. We are not, after
> all, looking at the original data, but the representation
> of the data as presented on the display. The proof,
> I suppose, is what happens when we print the file,
> since this is the purpose of PostScript output.
>
That is a good point. When I open the PDF (created by Ghostscript)
with the IrfanView image viewer (version 4.27), I do see horizontal
and vertical stripes. And, as told already last night, when I open the
same PDF with the Adobe Reader (version 7.1.4 [I know it's not the
latest version]), there are no stripes.

May be, that it has to do with the way, how the vector graphic is
convertet to a bitmap.

Cheers, Heinz
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75682 is a reply to message #75568] Tue, 05 April 2011 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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David Fanning writes:

> The only thing that can possibly make sense here
> is that this is a version problem in the software
> we are using to convert the PostScript file to a PDF
> file.

Now I can't even reproduce my results from yesterday. :-(

Is it time for a beer yet?

Cheers,

David


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Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75683 is a reply to message #75568] Tue, 05 April 2011 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Matt writes:

> Thanks Heinz. That's really strange, because when I issue the same
> command on my mac, I'm still getting the stripes (same file size
> though). The appearance is slightly different if I view the pdf in
> Preview, Safari or in Acrobat. But they all have stripes.
>
> I just tried the same thing on Linux, and then went and used Distiller
> on a Windows machine. Same deal. How can different people be getting
> different results with the same file? Maybe my eyes are the problem?!

The only thing that can possibly make sense here
is that this is a version problem in the software
we are using to convert the PostScript file to a PDF
file.

I am using Adobe Acrobat Pro, version 9 to do the
conversion. I've tried the conversion with several
different combinations of settings and I always
get a clear PDF file.

Of course, there is always the possibility that
the software we are using to *view* the PostScript
and PDF files are screwing it up. We are not, after
all, looking at the original data, but the representation
of the data as presented on the display. The proof,
I suppose, is what happens when we print the file,
since this is the purpose of PostScript output.

Cheers,

David


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Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75684 is a reply to message #75568] Tue, 05 April 2011 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Matt writes:

> I just tried the same thing on Linux, and then went and used Distiller
> on a Windows machine. Same deal. How can different people be getting
> different results with the same file? Maybe my eyes are the problem?!

Yes, I've been using eye-drops all morning, and
I *still* don't understand this! Very, very strange.

Maybe I'll just write up what I have so far
and it will suggest other questions. Unfortunately,
I can't spend much time on this today. :-(

Cheers,

David


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Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75685 is a reply to message #75568] Tue, 05 April 2011 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt[3] is currently offline  Matt[3]
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On Apr 4, 8:04 pm, Heinz Stege <public.215....@arcor.de> wrote:
Here is, what I did on Windows:
>
> input_file='test.ps'
> output_file='test.pdf'
> command='"C:\Program Files\gs\gs8.61\bin\gswin32c.exe" '+$
>    '-q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress '+$
>    '-dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage -sOutputFile="'+output_file+'" '+$
>    input_file
> spawn,command,stdout,stderr,/noshell
> print,stdout,stderr
>
> For me the PDF looks perfect. No stripes.
>
> The filesize of the test.pdf is 60 kB.
>
> HTH, Heinz

Thanks Heinz. That's really strange, because when I issue the same
command on my mac, I'm still getting the stripes (same file size
though). The appearance is slightly different if I view the pdf in
Preview, Safari or in Acrobat. But they all have stripes.

I just tried the same thing on Linux, and then went and used Distiller
on a Windows machine. Same deal. How can different people be getting
different results with the same file? Maybe my eyes are the problem?!

Cheers,

Matt
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75692 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Heinz Stege writes:

> there are no stripes within the graphics, when you use Ghostscript to
> convert the Postscript file to PDF. You can even do it from the IDL
> command line. Here is, what I did on Windows:
>
> input_file='test.ps'
> output_file='test.pdf'
> command='"C:\Program Files\gs\gs8.61\bin\gswin32c.exe" '+$
> '-q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress '+$
> '-dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage -sOutputFile="'+output_file+'" '+$
> input_file
> spawn,command,stdout,stderr,/noshell
> print,stdout,stderr
>
> For me the PDF looks perfect. No stripes.

No, I don't see any stripes either using this
method or using Adobe Distiller. I don't quite
know what to make of it all. :-)

Cheers,

David


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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75694 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Heinz Stege is currently offline  Heinz Stege
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 08:58:09 -0700 (PDT), Matt wrote:

> On Apr 4, 11:38�am, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there any chance you can make the PostScript file available?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
>>
>
> Sure. It's here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/Test.ps. I've been
> playing around with it a bit, so it's a slightly different version to
> the PDF above, but same idea.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt

Hi Matt,

there are no stripes within the graphics, when you use Ghostscript to
convert the Postscript file to PDF. You can even do it from the IDL
command line. Here is, what I did on Windows:

input_file='test.ps'
output_file='test.pdf'
command='"C:\Program Files\gs\gs8.61\bin\gswin32c.exe" '+$
'-q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress '+$
'-dAutoRotatePages=/PageByPage -sOutputFile="'+output_file+'" '+$
input_file
spawn,command,stdout,stderr,/noshell
print,stdout,stderr

For me the PDF looks perfect. No stripes.

The filesize of the test.pdf is 60 kB.

HTH, Heinz
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75696 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt[3] is currently offline  Matt[3]
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On Apr 4, 4:26 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> I typically use images instead of filled contours, too, in these
> situations, but I am very curious now to see the commands you
> used to create this PostScript file. I think it is a combination
> of a filled contour on a map projection that is causing the
> problem.
>
> I am curious to see if my solution to the gridding problem I
> am working on is also a solution to Matt's problem.

These are the relevant lines from my map plotting routine. The plot
above uses the version with the 'levels' set, but the scratches appear
whether the levels are specified or not:

ps_start, filename=filename

!p.multi=[0, 2, 1]

MAP_SET, limit=limit, position=[0.02, 0.05, 0.8, 0.95], $
title=title, charsize=charsize, /noborder, /isotropic

ctload, ct, brewer=brewer, reverse=reverse_ct

if keyword_set(levels) then $
fsc_contour, data, lon, lat, /overplot, /cell_fill, levels=levels,
missingvalue=missingvalue $
else $
fsc_contour, data, lon, lat, /overplot, /cell_fill,
nlevels=nlevels

ctload, 0
map_continents, thick=3

ctload, ct, brewer=brewer, reverse=reverse_ct
if keyword_set(levels) then $
fsc_colorbar, position=[0.93, 0.05, 0.98, 0.95], $
minrange=min(levels), maxrange=max(levels), /vertical,
$ ;ticknames=string(levels, format='(e8.1)')
title=cbtitle, divisions=n_elements(levels)-1, ticknames=labels
$
else $
fsc_colorbar, position=[0.93, 0.05, 0.98, 0.95], $
minrange=min(data, /nan), maxrange=max(data, /nan), /vertical, $
title=cbtitle

fsc_text, 0.05, 0.9, plot_label, /normal, charsize=1.5

ps_end

Cheers,

Matt
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75697 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Matt writes:

> Maybe I misunderstood David's previous post... You want to see what
> comes up in a plotting window? I'd never actually done that before
> for this plot, since I almost always plot straight to PS. Anyway,
> here's a screen-shot of what comes up just with ps_start commented
> out: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/IDL_screen_shot.png. Clearly
> some issues with the background color that I need to think about, but
> otherwise it's stripe-less. Also, if I use /fill, rather than /
> cell_fill, the plots look fine where there aren't missing values. I'm
> certain it's not something in the data.

Well now, this is MOST interesting!

I happen to be writing an article today about a problem
that came up doing filled contour plots on a map projection.
This is a problem with gridding, but in playing around with it
just a moment ago, I saw all these scratch-like marks in the PostScript
file I created to generate a PNG file for my web page. There were
no scratch marks in the PNG file. This is the first time I have
*ever* seen scratch marks in the PostScript file!

On closer inspection, these marks are *exactly* the outlines of
the triangles I was using to grid the data! Now, here is the interesting
thing. Matt's mention of the problem disappearing with the use of
the FILL keyword instead of the CELL_FILL keyword caused me to
try the (totally INCORRECT!!!) FILL keyword on this map projection.
He is right, the scratches (triangle outlines) completely disappear!
Of course, now the colors are completely wrong, but, heck, we seem
to be making progress here. :-)

So, there is something about CELL_FILL on a map projection that is
causing a problem. It really looks like a rounding problem to me,
where the triangles are just not always coming completely and seamlessly
together.


> I've just given Ken's routines a try and it looks like they might
> solve the problem! I'll need to play around with it a bit to get a
> better feel for it.
>
> It does seem like a shame not to use contour for this. As Ken says,
> it's much simpler!

I typically use images instead of filled contours, too, in these
situations, but I am very curious now to see the commands you
used to create this PostScript file. I think it is a combination
of a filled contour on a map projection that is causing the
problem.

I am curious to see if my solution to the gridding problem I
am working on is also a solution to Matt's problem.

Cheers,

David

--
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Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75698 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt[3] is currently offline  Matt[3]
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On Apr 4, 2:59 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> Kenneth P. Bowman writes:
>> These are rendering artifacts from converting the PS/PDF to a
>> bitmap to display it on the screen.  They are a result of the
>> PS being comprised of a number of individual polygons.
>> If you zoom into the PDF, you will see that the artifacts are
>> resolution dependent.
>
> I agree they look *exactly* like rendering artifacts,
> but I see no evidence the artifacts are resolution dependent.
> No matter what resolution I use on that PDF file, the artifacts
> are still there. :-(
>

Hi Guys,

Maybe I misunderstood David's previous post... You want to see what
comes up in a plotting window? I'd never actually done that before
for this plot, since I almost always plot straight to PS. Anyway,
here's a screen-shot of what comes up just with ps_start commented
out: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/IDL_screen_shot.png. Clearly
some issues with the background color that I need to think about, but
otherwise it's stripe-less. Also, if I use /fill, rather than /
cell_fill, the plots look fine where there aren't missing values. I'm
certain it's not something in the data.

I've just given Ken's routines a try and it looks like they might
solve the problem! I'll need to play around with it a bit to get a
better feel for it.

It does seem like a shame not to use contour for this. As Ken says,
it's much simpler!

Cheers,

Matt
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75699 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Kenneth P. Bowman writes:

> These are rendering artifacts from converting the PS/PDF to a
> bitmap to display it on the screen. They are a result of the
> PS being comprised of a number of individual polygons.
> If you zoom into the PDF, you will see that the artifacts are
> resolution dependent.

I agree they look *exactly* like rendering artifacts,
but I see no evidence the artifacts are resolution dependent.
No matter what resolution I use on that PDF file, the artifacts
are still there. :-(

Cheers,

David



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Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75700 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenneth P. Bowman is currently offline  Kenneth P. Bowman
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In article
<812f3ec8-351f-4b8c-8f9f-454634a9c28e@hd10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Matt <theothermattrigby@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/ps_converted_distiller.pdf

These are rendering artifacts from converting the PS/PDF to a
bitmap to display it on the screen. They are a result of the
PS being comprised of a number of individual polygons.
If you zoom into the PDF, you will see that the artifacts are
resolution dependent. That said, I think it is a bug that the
renderer produces these artifacts.

For me the easiest way workaround is to use an image for
the color, rather than using CONTOUR. This approach is
more complicated than using CONTOUR, because you
have to do it differently depending on the device.

Here is a code snippet showing how to handle PS/PDF and X devices.
MAP_IMAGE_KPB is my wrapper for MAP_IMAGE that handles missing data (NANs).
You should be able to use MAP_IMAGE. COLOR_LOOKUP_24_KPB is my function
to scale physical data into colors. IMAGE_24_KPB converts color values
stored as LONGs into RGB bytes.

You can download my routines from here

http://csrp.tamu.edu/downloads/idl/bowman_lib.zip

Using images instead of CONTOUR has some advantages. The resulting
PS files are often much smaller and display more quickly.

Ken Bowman


pixel_scale = 0.05 ;You might need to adjust this to get the right image resolution

MAP_SET, /CYLINDRICAL, /ISOTROPIC, /NOBORDER, LIMIT = [ymin, xmin, ymax, xmax] ;Map projection
data_map = MAP_IMAGE_KPB(REFORM(y[*,*,k]), i0, j0, ni, nj, /BILINEAR, COMPRESS = 1, $ ;Project data to map
SCALE = pixel_scale, LONMIN = xmin, LONMAX = xmax, LATMIN = ymin, LATMAX = ymax)
data_image = COLOR_LOOKUP_24_KPB(data_map, rdf_colors, MIN = y0min, MAX = y0max, $ ;Convert to color image
UNDER_COLOR = rdf_colors[0], OVER_COLOR = rdf_colors[-1])
IF (KEYWORD_SET(eps) OR KEYWORD_SET(pdf)) THEN BEGIN
TV, IMAGE_24_KPB(data_image, TRUE = 3), i0, j0, TRUE = 3, XSIZE = ni, YSIZE = nj ;Display image (PS)
ENDIF ELSE BEGIN
TV, IMAGE_24_KPB(data_image, TRUE = 3), i0, j0, TRUE = 3
ENDELSE
MAP_CONTINENTS, /CONTINENTS, /USA, COLOR = COLOR_24('gray30'), /COUNTRIES ;Draw continents
MAP_GRID, ...
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75701 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Matt writes:

> This is what came out of IDL, apart from the deletion of a bit of text
> in the header with the address of my computer on it.
>
> I can email you the code that produced it, if you'd like.

I'd guess I'd like to see what came directly out of IDL.
I've never seen "scratches" in IDL output before, although
I often see it in PostScript previewers. At least in the file
you sent me, they seem to be part of the original data.
I thought the file might have been "processed" or maybe
just "opened" in some way. They definitely don't look
"natural". :-)

Cheers,

David


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Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75702 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 4, 12:02 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> Matt writes:
>> Sure.  It's here:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/Test.ps. I've been
>> playing around with it a bit, so it's a slightly different version to
>> the PDF above, but same idea.
>
> OK, now, is this the PostScript file that came directly
> from IDL, or was this processed with some other software
> between when it was created in IDL and what I am seeing
> here?

This is what came out of IDL, apart from the deletion of a bit of text
in the header with the address of my computer on it.

I can email you the code that produced it, if you'd like.

Cheers,

Matt
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75704 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt writes:

> Sure. It's here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/Test.ps. I've been
> playing around with it a bit, so it's a slightly different version to
> the PDF above, but same idea.

OK, now, is this the PostScript file that came directly
from IDL, or was this processed with some other software
between when it was created in IDL and what I am seeing
here?

Cheers,

David


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Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75705 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 4, 11:38 am, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:

> Is there any chance you can make the PostScript file available?
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>

Sure. It's here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/Test.ps. I've been
playing around with it a bit, so it's a slightly different version to
the PDF above, but same idea.

Cheers,

Matt
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75707 is a reply to message #75568] Mon, 04 April 2011 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt writes:

> Thanks for the suggestions, guys. However, none of these seem to get
> rid of those lines (e.g. here's the output from distiller using the
> default settings: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13779929/ps_converted_distiller.pdf)...
> Maybe I'm missing something here. Does anyone know any Distiller
> settings that could get around this?
>
> The only thing I haven't been able to try is to use the PDF
> printer... I'm using a mac, and can't quite figure out how to select
> my Adobe PDF printer from Dialog_PrinterSetup(). Maybe someone has
> some experience with this too?

Is there any chance you can make the PostScript file available?

Cheers,

David


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Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75718 is a reply to message #75568] Thu, 14 April 2011 00:43 Go to previous message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Am 13.04.2011 20:28, schrieb Rob:
>
> Just to add to the discussion, I had the same thing and posted about
> it a while ago.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/browse_t hread/thread/fd3c77e00dd840bd/d67af32fed916a02?lnk=gst&q =stripe+effect
>
> These artefacts are seen in the original postscript file as viewed in
> Ghostview and remain when converted to PNG, etc using ImageMagick.


Also I want to add you should try a modern printer and look at the
results. Because almost all printers have a limitation for the amount of
vertices for a curve. Some programs have this limitations too.

cheers
Reimar
Re: EPS to PDF contour plots [message #75727 is a reply to message #75568] Wed, 13 April 2011 11:28 Go to previous message
rjp23 is currently offline  rjp23
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Just to add to the discussion, I had the same thing and posted about
it a while ago.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/browse_t hread/thread/fd3c77e00dd840bd/d67af32fed916a02?lnk=gst&q =stripe+effect

These artefacts are seen in the original postscript file as viewed in
Ghostview and remain when converted to PNG, etc using ImageMagick.
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