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Re: Just a question about licence [message #75813] Sat, 30 April 2011 02:24 Go to next message
Trigkos is currently offline  Trigkos
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David,

You have right. I have not thought the problem of the poor countries.
I have also been in countries that a tourist with a couple of thousand
euros feels lives and behaves like a "king" (and believe me i saw well
educated people in theese countries, that behaved worst than bums and
this is the worst.) . Unfortunatelly most of us we are only look
forward instead of looking backwards and thanks god for what we have.

Probably companies should reconsider their product prices for poor
countries.

in my opinion education, knowledge = power, freedom "self management".
Do they wont this for theese countries, for theese people? I dont
think so..
Re: Just a question about licence [message #75815 is a reply to message #75813] Fri, 29 April 2011 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Trigkos writes:

> Dont missundersand me. I didnt ask how to steal IDL. It is not my
> style to use cracked software. But searching the internet you always
> find cracks hacks licences for new releases in maximum 20 days time.
> Thats the only software that you cant find a licence for the new
> release. And i am just try to explain it. its Just my "perverted"
> curriosity...

This brings up interesting issues of social justice,
intellectual property, the responsibility of
corporations and citizens, and a whole host of other
thoughts that are running through my mind this afternoon.

Naturally, I am only too aware that books can be "cracked"
as well as software.

I am wondering about my own role and responsibility in the
world. I have been trying this week to get some IDL software
organized for a class in a very poor country in Africa.
The students there cannot possible afford the prices we
pay for IDL software. When I was in a similar poor African
country four or five years ago it was clear that most of
the software on any computer you cared to examine was
"cracked," including, I imagine, the IDL software used by
the students for the research we were conducting.

I am not rich by any stretch of the imagination, and yet
I was rich in those countries, and I remember coming home
and being embarrassed by what I found in my closet. Junk
mostly, things I didn't need, but just wanted. I have
made a conscious effort to pare down since then, but I live
in a rich country and even the poorest of us often live
better than the vast majority of people I found in Africa.

What, if anything, do we owe poor people? If they steal my
book and it causes them to learn IDL better, analyze data
better, create more water resources for their drought-stricken
country, what is the cost to me? Nearly nothing. And in the
great tallying up at the end of my life, maybe that even goes
into the positive column. Who knows? Maybe I did some good
just by writing the book.

I guess I believe people who can afford to pay, should pay.
But I am more ambivalent about people who can't afford to pay,
especially when I travel outside my own country.

Cheers,

David


--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Just a question about licence [message #75816 is a reply to message #75815] Fri, 29 April 2011 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Trigkos is currently offline  Trigkos
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Registered: May 2011
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Dont missundersand me. I didnt ask how to steal IDL. It is not my
style to use cracked software. But searching the internet you always
find cracks hacks licences for new releases in maximum 20 days time.
Thats the only software that you cant find a licence for the new
release. And i am just try to explain it. its Just my "perverted"
curriosity...
Re: Just a question about licence [message #75817 is a reply to message #75816] Fri, 29 April 2011 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pgrigis is currently offline  pgrigis
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Registered: September 2007
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This newsgroup is dedicated to discussions on how to use
IDL but is not the right forum to ask how to steal IDL.

Ciao,
Paolo



On Apr 29, 2:15 pm, Trigkos <pantremeno...@mail.gr> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> This is just a question......
>
> I can find for all previous versions of IDL and ENVI licence files,
> except the latst one. [perhaps an exception in some chenese blogs that
> they give a licence file that under certain modifications it works
> (although i havent check it i do not think it is working) but it has't
> all the modules of IDL-ENVI]
>
> Any idea why this happens? What is the most probable scenario??
>
> 1. It is extremely difficult to crack it?
> 2. no one bothers to crack it?
> 3. Sonething else?
Re: Just a question about licence [message #76006 is a reply to message #75813] Mon, 09 May 2011 08:28 Go to previous message
pgrigis is currently offline  pgrigis
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Registered: September 2007
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I wasn't necessarily bringing up the issue whether
what you were asking was ethically correct or not, I was
concerned that in this forum we get a nice community
with useful information, and ITTVIS employees sometimes
also do contribute.

If we start talking about practices with are illegal in
many countries, there may be a chance that this forum may
be blocked by some internet providers and/or shunned by
some contributors - especially by ITTVIS employees (and I
think some posters here have experienced in the past the
degree to which ITTVIS goes to protect its intellectual
property).

Ciao,
Paolo
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