| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75803] |
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Maarten[1]
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On Apr 29, 2:24 pm, Mort anty <m.ca...@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
> Right, David. Don't let them tempt you. I've got Langtangen's "Python
> Scripting for Computational Science, 3rd Ed." on my bookshelf, and I
> sure as heck wouldn't like to have to compete with it.
My suggestion as well. Langtangen's other book "A Primer on Scientific
Programming with Python" is a great intro as well, a better starting
point. I'd love to see a merger between Software Carpentry and
Langtangen's books. The ideas behind software carpentry are really
worth to be absorbed, regardless of programming language.
Maarten
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75810 is a reply to message #75803] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 17:14  |
David Fanning
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Craig and Gray write:
>> P.S. My vote for a book would be a way to turn files into objects.
>> The current situation with logical unit numbers harkens back to the
>> FORTRAN of the 1970s.
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> Or, speaking of files, how about a nice and neat way of dealing with
> parameter files?
Humm, I like these suggestions, both of which I have
implemented before in the DataViewer application I wrote
for NSIDC. Which--coincidence!?--is written with the
Catalyst Library.
Perhaps an "Application Programming in IDL" book
that starts with GUI fundamentals, which leads
naturally to objects and the Catalyst Library,
which leads to all manner of neat and useful
applications and tools you can build with objects.
Humm. I guess I better go order Ronn Kling's new
book. Maybe he has beat me to this idea. :-)
Cheers,
David
P.S. The fact that Craig is suggesting objects has
me REALLY excited! ;-)
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75811 is a reply to message #75810] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 16:58 |
Gray
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On Apr 30, 4:59 pm, Craig Markwardt <craig.markwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 2:14 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
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>> Folks,
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>> Just thought some of you might be interested in hearing
>> about the recent "book tour" I was on, mostly visiting
>> national labs in the Washington, D.C. and Virgina areas.
>
>> The turn-out for these seminars was overwhelming. In one
>> case, literally, as we couldn't fit more chairs into the
>> room and people were forced to stand in the hall where
>> they couldn't see the screen to listen to the presentation!
>> I sold all the books I had with me (all I could carry!) and
>> more besides. I am *extremely* grateful to the folks who
>> helped me set these seminars up. It was a lot of fun
>> meeting old friends and people I had only known previously
>> via e-mail and this newsgroup.
>
>> Coyote had to get involved, of course, and it wasn't
>> until I got to the rental car counter that I realized
>> he had switched my driver's license with one that had
>> expired six months ago when I was on my long walk in
>> Oregon! Yikes! Let's just say I am *extremely* grateful
>> to a certain Chinese bus company who picked me up in
>> front of a Chinese grocery in Washington and dumped
>> me in front of a similar location in Virgina Beach.
>> (Not to mention in-laws who have, unfortunately, come
>> to expect this kind of behavior from me.) Live the
>> adventure, I always say. :-)
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>> Anyway, all this activity has pushed the book
>> (briefly) above the 25,000th most popular on Amazon
>> yesterday. I have a ways to go to catch Slaughter
>> House Five, but I'm making progress, and it's clear
>> that *someone* is buying the darn thing, and hopefully
>> reading it! If you are someone who *has* read it, please
>> consider writing an Amazon review of the book. You don't
>> have to have purchased the book at Amazon to write a
>> review, by the way.
>
>> I have been thinking a great deal about the next book
>> I hope to work on, and I think I am extremely close
>> to making a decision about this. If you have strong
>> views on this topic, this would be a good time to
>> voice them. This one may take some time to write and
>> may have to be written in a less sustained way,
>> as people are asking for courses to be taught in
>> far-off and exotic lands and I find it very hard to
>> pass these kinds of opportunities up. :-)
>
>> Mostly, though, I want to say thanks again to the
>> folks on this newsgroup whose overwhelming support
>> and encouragement makes it possible for me to do this
>> work. You really are the best!
>
> Hi David, It was great seeing you at NASA, hearing your talk, and then
> having lunch with you. I'm glad you made it out to the right
> coast! :-)
>
> Craig
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> P.S. My vote for a book would be a way to turn files into objects.
> The current situation with logical unit numbers harkens back to the
> FORTRAN of the 1970s.
Or, speaking of files, how about a nice and neat way of dealing with
parameter files?
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75812 is a reply to message #75811] |
Sat, 30 April 2011 13:59 |
Craig Markwardt
Messages: 1869
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On Apr 28, 2:14 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Just thought some of you might be interested in hearing
> about the recent "book tour" I was on, mostly visiting
> national labs in the Washington, D.C. and Virgina areas.
>
> The turn-out for these seminars was overwhelming. In one
> case, literally, as we couldn't fit more chairs into the
> room and people were forced to stand in the hall where
> they couldn't see the screen to listen to the presentation!
> I sold all the books I had with me (all I could carry!) and
> more besides. I am *extremely* grateful to the folks who
> helped me set these seminars up. It was a lot of fun
> meeting old friends and people I had only known previously
> via e-mail and this newsgroup.
>
> Coyote had to get involved, of course, and it wasn't
> until I got to the rental car counter that I realized
> he had switched my driver's license with one that had
> expired six months ago when I was on my long walk in
> Oregon! Yikes! Let's just say I am *extremely* grateful
> to a certain Chinese bus company who picked me up in
> front of a Chinese grocery in Washington and dumped
> me in front of a similar location in Virgina Beach.
> (Not to mention in-laws who have, unfortunately, come
> to expect this kind of behavior from me.) Live the
> adventure, I always say. :-)
>
> Anyway, all this activity has pushed the book
> (briefly) above the 25,000th most popular on Amazon
> yesterday. I have a ways to go to catch Slaughter
> House Five, but I'm making progress, and it's clear
> that *someone* is buying the darn thing, and hopefully
> reading it! If you are someone who *has* read it, please
> consider writing an Amazon review of the book. You don't
> have to have purchased the book at Amazon to write a
> review, by the way.
>
> I have been thinking a great deal about the next book
> I hope to work on, and I think I am extremely close
> to making a decision about this. If you have strong
> views on this topic, this would be a good time to
> voice them. This one may take some time to write and
> may have to be written in a less sustained way,
> as people are asking for courses to be taught in
> far-off and exotic lands and I find it very hard to
> pass these kinds of opportunities up. :-)
>
> Mostly, though, I want to say thanks again to the
> folks on this newsgroup whose overwhelming support
> and encouragement makes it possible for me to do this
> work. You really are the best!
Hi David, It was great seeing you at NASA, hearing your talk, and then
having lunch with you. I'm glad you made it out to the right
coast! :-)
Craig
P.S. My vote for a book would be a way to turn files into objects.
The current situation with logical unit numbers harkens back to the
FORTRAN of the 1970s.
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75819 is a reply to message #75812] |
Fri, 29 April 2011 06:52 |
Mort Canty
Messages: 134
Registered: March 2003
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Am 29.04.2011 15:19, schrieb David Fanning:
> Mort anty writes:
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>> Right, David. Don't let them tempt you. I've got Langtangen's "Python
>> Scripting for Computational Science, 3rd Ed." on my bookshelf, and I
>> sure as heck wouldn't like to have to compete with it.
>
> Probably there is more interest in a book that explains
> how you can install and maintain all the "parts" of the
> Python environment in a form that allows you to write
> code rather than debug package installation and
> compatibilities. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
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>
Agreed. Pythonxy does all that for me on 32-bit Windows, but it would be
nice to know how to set something like that up for yourself, e.g., as 64
bit.
Mort
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75820 is a reply to message #75819] |
Fri, 29 April 2011 06:19 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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Mort anty writes:
> Right, David. Don't let them tempt you. I've got Langtangen's "Python
> Scripting for Computational Science, 3rd Ed." on my bookshelf, and I
> sure as heck wouldn't like to have to compete with it.
Probably there is more interest in a book that explains
how you can install and maintain all the "parts" of the
Python environment in a form that allows you to write
code rather than debug package installation and
compatibilities. :-)
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75821 is a reply to message #75820] |
Fri, 29 April 2011 05:24 |
Mort Canty
Messages: 134
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Am 29.04.2011 00:40, schrieb David Fanning:
> Paolo writes:
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>> Python Programming Techniques
>>
>> (this is actually a serious suggestion... but I am not sure
>> how much competition there is in that field for books...)
>
> To tell you the truth, this thought has crossed my mind,
> too. In fact, if I would have had any money to bet on
> what my epiphany would have been on my big hike, I would
> have been heavily on "python" rather than "idl." But,
> the Universe has its own reasons, I guess.
>
> Anyway, Greg Wilson has a wonderful on-line Python
> programming course called Software Carpentry:
>
> http://software-carpentry.org/
>
> I've learned a lot of things there. Greg recently ran
> out of money for his web page, and did the math to see
> whether he could "afford" to write a Python programming
> book from the material he already had (quite a lot!).
> His answer was no, he couldn't afford to do it.
>
> http://software-carpentry.org/2011/04/by-the-numbers/
>
> I thought his words per day figure was way too high,
> and his total days were off by a factor of at least
> two, so it probably would have cost him twice as much
> as he was estimating, so... Bottom line, it's hard to
> write a book. And even harder to write one when you don't
> really know the subject inside and out.
>
> Python Programming Techniques is probably not going
> to make my short list, anyway. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
Right, David. Don't let them tempt you. I've got Langtangen's "Python
Scripting for Computational Science, 3rd Ed." on my bookshelf, and I
sure as heck wouldn't like to have to compete with it.
Mort.
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75826 is a reply to message #75821] |
Thu, 28 April 2011 15:40 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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Paolo writes:
> Python Programming Techniques
>
> (this is actually a serious suggestion... but I am not sure
> how much competition there is in that field for books...)
To tell you the truth, this thought has crossed my mind,
too. In fact, if I would have had any money to bet on
what my epiphany would have been on my big hike, I would
have been heavily on "python" rather than "idl." But,
the Universe has its own reasons, I guess.
Anyway, Greg Wilson has a wonderful on-line Python
programming course called Software Carpentry:
http://software-carpentry.org/
I've learned a lot of things there. Greg recently ran
out of money for his web page, and did the math to see
whether he could "afford" to write a Python programming
book from the material he already had (quite a lot!).
His answer was no, he couldn't afford to do it.
http://software-carpentry.org/2011/04/by-the-numbers/
I thought his words per day figure was way too high,
and his total days were off by a factor of at least
two, so it probably would have cost him twice as much
as he was estimating, so... Bottom line, it's hard to
write a book. And even harder to write one when you don't
really know the subject inside and out.
Python Programming Techniques is probably not going
to make my short list, anyway. :-)
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Book Tour Report [message #75827 is a reply to message #75826] |
Thu, 28 April 2011 14:11 |
pgrigis
Messages: 436
Registered: September 2007
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On Apr 28, 2:14 pm, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Just thought some of you might be interested in hearing
> about the recent "book tour" I was on, mostly visiting
> national labs in the Washington, D.C. and Virgina areas.
>
> The turn-out for these seminars was overwhelming. In one
> case, literally, as we couldn't fit more chairs into the
> room and people were forced to stand in the hall where
> they couldn't see the screen to listen to the presentation!
> I sold all the books I had with me (all I could carry!) and
> more besides. I am *extremely* grateful to the folks who
> helped me set these seminars up. It was a lot of fun
> meeting old friends and people I had only known previously
> via e-mail and this newsgroup.
>
> Coyote had to get involved, of course, and it wasn't
> until I got to the rental car counter that I realized
> he had switched my driver's license with one that had
> expired six months ago when I was on my long walk in
> Oregon! Yikes! Let's just say I am *extremely* grateful
> to a certain Chinese bus company who picked me up in
> front of a Chinese grocery in Washington and dumped
> me in front of a similar location in Virgina Beach.
> (Not to mention in-laws who have, unfortunately, come
> to expect this kind of behavior from me.) Live the
> adventure, I always say. :-)
>
> Anyway, all this activity has pushed the book
> (briefly) above the 25,000th most popular on Amazon
> yesterday. I have a ways to go to catch Slaughter
> House Five, but I'm making progress, and it's clear
> that *someone* is buying the darn thing, and hopefully
> reading it! If you are someone who *has* read it, please
> consider writing an Amazon review of the book. You don't
> have to have purchased the book at Amazon to write a
> review, by the way.
>
> I have been thinking a great deal about the next book
> I hope to work on, and I think I am extremely close
> to making a decision about this. If you have strong
> views on this topic, this would be a good time to
> voice them.
Python Programming Techniques
(this is actually a serious suggestion... but I am not sure
how much competition there is in that field for books...)
Ciao,
Paolo
> This one may take some time to write and
> may have to be written in a less sustained way,
> as people are asking for courses to be taught in
> far-off and exotic lands and I find it very hard to
> pass these kinds of opportunities up. :-)
>
> Mostly, though, I want to say thanks again to the
> folks on this newsgroup whose overwhelming support
> and encouragement makes it possible for me to do this
> work. You really are the best!
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.idlcoyote.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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