| Re: IDL 8.1 still unstable [message #76738] |
Mon, 27 June 2011 10:50  |
Kenneth P. Bowman
Messages: 585
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In article <iuaadd$qf7$1@dont-email.me>,
Michael Galloy <mgalloy@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that the 8.1 Workbench is more stable than 8.0, but
> definitely not stable enough for me to use (at least on Mac). If I can
> get it to launch, it usually works for me, but starting up is a 50/50
> shot at best. It seems to be related to available memory and I can
> usually get it to start if I quit some other applications, but it's not
> guaranteed.
Every now and then I think of giving up my antiquated, terminal-window,
X-Windows, and standalone editor approach and trying the modern,
gee-whiz, integrated development environment thingy.
And then I see a bunch of postings like this thread.
I will hold off on using the Workbench in classes. :-)
Cheers, Ken
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| Re: IDL 8.1 still unstable [message #76739 is a reply to message #76738] |
Mon, 27 June 2011 09:16  |
Michael Galloy
Messages: 1114
Registered: April 2006
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On 6/27/11 9:46 AM, David Fanning wrote:
> alx writes:
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>> I am running both 32 and 64 bits versions of IDL 8.1 under various,
>> fully updated MS-Windows OS.
>> I wonder whether I am the only user to face this kind of problem !
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> I have been using IDL 8.1 pretty much all day long
> for over two weeks now, teaching IDL classes every
> day, all day. I think it has probably crashed no
> more than 2-3 times. Today, for example, it crashed
> when I said "Help, a". I don't know why! :-)
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> In general, it has been reasonably stable. A LOT more
> stable than IDL 8.0, that's for sure, although I have
> completely abandoned writing main-level programs in
> IDL for the moment, because that part of IDL 8.1 is
> completely broken.
It seems to me that the 8.1 Workbench is more stable than 8.0, but
definitely not stable enough for me to use (at least on Mac). If I can
get it to launch, it usually works for me, but starting up is a 50/50
shot at best. It seems to be related to available memory and I can
usually get it to start if I quit some other applications, but it's not
guaranteed.
I have also had some weird issues with main-level programs, but I can't
seem to remember the details.
Mike
--
Michael Galloy
www.michaelgalloy.com
Modern IDL, A Guide to Learning IDL: http://modernidl.idldev.com
Research Mathematician
Tech-X Corporation
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| Re: IDL 8.1 still unstable [message #76740 is a reply to message #76739] |
Mon, 27 June 2011 08:46 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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alx writes:
> I am running both 32 and 64 bits versions of IDL 8.1 under various,
> fully updated MS-Windows OS.
> I wonder whether I am the only user to face this kind of problem !
I have been using IDL 8.1 pretty much all day long
for over two weeks now, teaching IDL classes every
day, all day. I think it has probably crashed no
more than 2-3 times. Today, for example, it crashed
when I said "Help, a". I don't know why! :-)
In general, it has been reasonably stable. A LOT more
stable than IDL 8.0, that's for sure, although I have
completely abandoned writing main-level programs in
IDL for the moment, because that part of IDL 8.1 is
completely broken.
But I will say this about the IDL Workbench. If you
put 45 people in a room that could maybe hold 20,
all with laptops and none with any IDL experience,
and you try to add, say, the Coyote Library as a
project and get the Coyote directory on the IDL path,
it is AMAZING how many possible ways there are to do
this incorrectly!
It has taken me most of a week to get this sorted out,
let alone teach anyone how to write an IDL program!
This is all made considerably more difficult by having
only three power cords in the entire room, all drawing
about 50 amps over the recommended power rating. God
help us if someone comes in from the rain (it's the
rainy season in Addis Ababa) and bumps one of these
electrical structures. We will all be electrocuted!
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.1 still unstable [message #76790 is a reply to message #76739] |
Thu, 30 June 2011 08:18 |
vto
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On Jun 27, 12:16 pm, Michael Galloy <mgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/27/11 9:46 AM, David Fanning wrote:
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>> alx writes:
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>>> I am running both 32 and 64 bits versions of IDL 8.1 under various,
>>> fully updated MS-Windows OS.
>>> I wonder whether I am the only user to face this kind of problem !
>
>> I have been using IDL 8.1 pretty much all day long
>> for over two weeks now, teaching IDL classes every
>> day, all day. I think it has probably crashed no
>> more than 2-3 times. Today, for example, it crashed
>> when I said "Help, a". I don't know why! :-)
>
>> In general, it has been reasonably stable. A LOT more
>> stable than IDL 8.0, that's for sure, although I have
>> completely abandoned writing main-level programs in
>> IDL for the moment, because that part of IDL 8.1 is
>> completely broken.
>
> It seems to me that the 8.1 Workbench is more stable than 8.0, but
> definitely not stable enough for me to use (at least on Mac). If I can
> get it to launch, it usually works for me, but starting up is a 50/50
> shot at best. It seems to be related to available memory and I can
> usually get it to start if I quit some other applications, but it's not
> guaranteed.
>
> I have also had some weird issues with main-level programs, but I can't
> seem to remember the details.
>
> Mike
> --
> Michael Galloywww.michaelgalloy.com
> Modern IDL, A Guide to Learning IDL:http://modernidl.idldev.com
> Research Mathematician
> Tech-X Corporation
I'm using IDl 8.1 on a Mac as well. The IDLDE has been up and running
for over a month now. However, its does not mean it is more stable. It
simply has a number of annoyances. Currently, my (forward) "delete"
button has quit functioning (the backwards delete button still works).
This is the typical sign that IDL soon becomes unresponsive, meaning
that the command line will quit working as well. It does not crash,
only, no commands will be executed. Only way to solve it is to restart
IDL.
I think part of the problem is the underlying JAVA. I'm running other
JAVA programs as well and sometimes there seems to be some interaction
between these JAVA programs with IDL, most likely memory crunch,- I
only got 32 GB and still run out of it sometimes.
These are my few cents,
Volker
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| Re: IDL 8.1 still unstable [message #76796 is a reply to message #76738] |
Wed, 29 June 2011 21:03 |
Jeremy Bailin
Messages: 618
Registered: April 2008
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On Monday, June 27, 2011 1:50:19 PM UTC-4, Kenneth P. Bowman wrote:
> In article <iuaadd$qf7$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Michael Galloy <mga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It seems to me that the 8.1 Workbench is more stable than 8.0, but
>> definitely not stable enough for me to use (at least on Mac). If I can
>> get it to launch, it usually works for me, but starting up is a 50/50
>> shot at best. It seems to be related to available memory and I can
>> usually get it to start if I quit some other applications, but it's not
>> guaranteed.
>
> Every now and then I think of giving up my antiquated, terminal-window,
> X-Windows, and standalone editor approach and trying the modern,
> gee-whiz, integrated development environment thingy.
>
> And then I see a bunch of postings like this thread.
>
> I will hold off on using the Workbench in classes. :-)
>
> Cheers, Ken
MacVim is my IDE. ;-)
-Jeremy.
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