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Getting Help in On-Line Communities [message #79406] Wed, 29 February 2012 17:15 Go to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Folks,

PLoS Computational Biology has a good article on how
to get help from on-line scientific communities. It
occurs to me that this might be good advice for our
community. :-)

http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%
2Fjournal.pcbi.1002202

Cheers,

David


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Re: Getting Help in On-Line Communities [message #79460 is a reply to message #79406] Sun, 04 March 2012 15:23 Go to previous message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Craig Markwardt writes:

> It's a nice article, and it's cute that the article was written collaboratively on a wiki.
>
> <rant>
> But how did this get into a computational biology journal? The editor should have flagged this as an off-topic paper to begin with. What next, "How to remove bio-slime from your indoor plumbing?" I strongly believe how-to information doesn't belong in scientific journals.
>
> And beyond that, 99% of what is said in that paper is redundant to Eric S. Raymond's "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" from a decade ago. Why write a whole 2000 word paper about this subject when the following paper would have sufficed?
>
>> Do this: [1].
>>
>> [1] Raymond, Eric S. 2001, "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way"
>
> The bio-unique element of the paper, a list of 15 vaguely bioinformatics-related mailing lists, is tucked away in a separate supplemental document without any real commentary or editorial basis. Why did they choose some mailing lists and not others? How about including a map between bio-informatics specialties and mailing lists?
>
> I think the authors' article strongly deserves to be written, but it should have stayed on a wiki or on the web, not in a scientific journal.
> </rant>

Oh, Geez, I don't care *which* article people choose to read,
but clearly Raymond's article is not getting as many eyeballs
as we need! ;-)

Cheers,

David



--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Getting Help in On-Line Communities [message #79461 is a reply to message #79406] Sun, 04 March 2012 09:20 Go to previous message
Craig Markwardt is currently offline  Craig Markwardt
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On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:15:30 PM UTC-5, David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
>
> PLoS Computational Biology has a good article on how
> to get help from on-line scientific communities. It
> occurs to me that this might be good advice for our
> community. :-)
>
> http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%
> 2Fjournal.pcbi.1002202

It's a nice article, and it's cute that the article was written collaboratively on a wiki.

<rant>
But how did this get into a computational biology journal? The editor should have flagged this as an off-topic paper to begin with. What next, "How to remove bio-slime from your indoor plumbing?" I strongly believe how-to information doesn't belong in scientific journals.

And beyond that, 99% of what is said in that paper is redundant to Eric S. Raymond's "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" from a decade ago. Why write a whole 2000 word paper about this subject when the following paper would have sufficed?

> Do this: [1].
>
> [1] Raymond, Eric S. 2001, "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way"

The bio-unique element of the paper, a list of 15 vaguely bioinformatics-related mailing lists, is tucked away in a separate supplemental document without any real commentary or editorial basis. Why did they choose some mailing lists and not others? How about including a map between bio-informatics specialties and mailing lists?

I think the authors' article strongly deserves to be written, but it should have stayed on a wiki or on the web, not in a scientific journal.
</rant>
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