| Re: Buttons in Widgets [message #80553] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 10:00 |
Russell Ryan
Messages: 122
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On Monday, June 25, 2012 5:54:13 AM UTC-4, Helder wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm don't like that much how the buttons of IDL widgets look (Widget_button) even when using the /bitmap argument. I am exploring the solution of using a draw_widget, making it of the same color as the background(*) and then filling it is with my own drawing. The difference between the two methods is that the borders of the buttons will appear different: for a button widget these are defined by the IDL and for a draw widget one can have "no" borders or define how these look like. Another advantage is that one can have the effect of having an something like an icon floating on a background.
> Has anybody tried doing such things? So far it seems to do the job for me, but I haven't played too much with it yet.
> (*) Is there a way to find out what color the base widget has and/or to define it?
>
> Cheers,
> Helder
It sounds like you're trying to do something like Rob Dimeo did?
http://www.ncnr.nist.gov/staff/dimeo/idl_programs.html
Check out his compound widgets (ie. the screen shot pages).
Russell
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| Re: Buttons in Widgets [message #80555 is a reply to message #80553] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 09:41  |
Michael Galloy
Messages: 1114
Registered: April 2006
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On 6/25/12 3:54 AM, Helder wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm don't like that much how the buttons of IDL widgets look (Widget_button) even when using the /bitmap argument. I am exploring the solution of using a draw_widget, making it of the same color as the background(*) and then filling it is with my own drawing. The difference between the two methods is that the borders of the buttons will appear different: for a button widget these are defined by the IDL and for a draw widget one can have "no" borders or define how these look like. Another advantage is that one can have the effect of having an something like an icon floating on a background.
> Has anybody tried doing such things? So far it seems to do the job for me, but I haven't played too much with it yet.
> (*) Is there a way to find out what color the base widget has and/or to define it?
>
> Cheers,
> Helder
>
You can't change the colors, but you can query with:
IDL> tlb = widget_base()
IDL> colors = widget_info(tlb, /system_colors)
IDL> help, colors
** Structure WIDGET_SYSTEM_COLORS, 25 tags, length=150, data length=150:
DARK_SHADOW_3D INT Array[3]
FACE_3D INT Array[3]
LIGHT_EDGE_3D INT Array[3]
LIGHT_3D INT Array[3]
SHADOW_3D INT Array[3]
ACTIVE_BORDER INT Array[3]
ACTIVE_CAPTION INT Array[3]
APP_WORKSPACE INT Array[3]
DESKTOP INT Array[3]
BUTTON_TEXT INT Array[3]
CAPTION_TEXT INT Array[3]
GRAY_TEXT INT Array[3]
HIGHLIGHT INT Array[3]
HIGHLIGHT_TEXT INT Array[3]
INACTIVE_BORDER INT Array[3]
INACTIVE_CAPTION
INT Array[3]
INACTIVE_CAPTION_TEXT
INT Array[3]
TOOLTIP_BK INT Array[3]
TOOLTIP_TEXT INT Array[3]
MENU INT Array[3]
MENU_TEXT INT Array[3]
SCROLLBAR INT Array[3]
WINDOW_BK INT Array[3]
WINDOW_FRAME INT Array[3]
WINDOW_TEXT INT Array[3]
Mike
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Michael Galloy
www.michaelgalloy.com
Modern IDL: A Guide to IDL Programming (http://modernidl.idldev.com)
Research Mathematician
Tech-X Corporation
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| Re: Buttons in Widgets [message #80559 is a reply to message #80555] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 07:21 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
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alx writes:
> Regarding "pushed" appearance, it seems to me only a matter of
> exchanging some predefined bitmaps at each push, like by doing:
> WIDGET_CONTROL, your_button, SET_VALUE=pushed ? OnBitmap :
> OffBitmap, /BITMAP
> keeping you able to use any further widget_button facility you like.
I was talking about draw widgets that act as button
widgets. Bitmaps were WAY too unreliable when I was
making my own buttons. Perhaps they are better now.
But, changing widget visual properties on the fly
has never been on of IDL's great strengths. Although,
I will say this, it usually works on Windows machines. :-)
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Buttons in Widgets [message #80560 is a reply to message #80559] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 07:14 |
lecacheux.alain
Messages: 325
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On 25 juin, 14:36, David Fanning <n...@idlcoyote.com> wrote:
> Helder writes:
>> I'm don't like that much how the buttons of IDL widgets
>> look (Widget_button) even when using the /bitmap argument.
>> I am exploring the solution of using a draw_widget, making
>> it of the same color as the background(*) and then filling
>> it is with my own drawing. The difference between the two
>> methods is that the borders of the buttons will appear
>> different: for a button widget these are defined by the
>> IDL and for a draw widget one can have "no" borders or
>> define how these look like. Another advantage is that
>> one can have the effect of having an something like
>> an icon floating on a background.
>> Has anybody tried doing such things?
>
> Of course. :-)
>
> To be "real" for users (i.e., they get the idea they have
> "pushed" something) you need to have two states for your
> button: a "normal" look and a "pushed" look. Depending
> on how you draw your button, this sometimes is just a
> matter of reversing some or all of your colors (you need
> about 6-10 to make a decent looking button). You definitely
> want to build this as a compound object-widget, because
> there is going to be a lot of things your button will
> want to remember.
>
> In the end, I think you will find that it is probably
> just a whole lot easier and more efficient to change
> your attitude about WIDGET_BUTTON and use it. :-)
>
>> (*) Is there a way to find out what color the base
>> widget has and/or to define it?
>
> Use the System_Colors keyword to Widget_Info to get
> this information. I carried this information around in
> cgColor for years, but no one I knew (including me
> after I gave up on making my own buttons) ever
> used it, so I removed it. It requires a window
> connection to obtain these colors, so don't distribute
> your application widely, unless you wish additional
> headaches. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.idlcoyote.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
>
>
Regarding "pushed" appearance, it seems to me only a matter of
exchanging some predefined bitmaps at each push, like by doing:
WIDGET_CONTROL, your_button, SET_VALUE=pushed ? OnBitmap :
OffBitmap, /BITMAP
keeping you able to use any further widget_button facility you like.
alain.
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| Re: Buttons in Widgets [message #80562 is a reply to message #80560] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 05:36 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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Helder writes:
> I'm don't like that much how the buttons of IDL widgets
> look (Widget_button) even when using the /bitmap argument.
> I am exploring the solution of using a draw_widget, making
> it of the same color as the background(*) and then filling
> it is with my own drawing. The difference between the two
> methods is that the borders of the buttons will appear
> different: for a button widget these are defined by the
> IDL and for a draw widget one can have "no" borders or
> define how these look like. Another advantage is that
> one can have the effect of having an something like
> an icon floating on a background.
> Has anybody tried doing such things?
Of course. :-)
To be "real" for users (i.e., they get the idea they have
"pushed" something) you need to have two states for your
button: a "normal" look and a "pushed" look. Depending
on how you draw your button, this sometimes is just a
matter of reversing some or all of your colors (you need
about 6-10 to make a decent looking button). You definitely
want to build this as a compound object-widget, because
there is going to be a lot of things your button will
want to remember.
In the end, I think you will find that it is probably
just a whole lot easier and more efficient to change
your attitude about WIDGET_BUTTON and use it. :-)
> (*) Is there a way to find out what color the base
> widget has and/or to define it?
Use the System_Colors keyword to Widget_Info to get
this information. I carried this information around in
cgColor for years, but no one I knew (including me
after I gave up on making my own buttons) ever
used it, so I removed it. It requires a window
connection to obtain these colors, so don't distribute
your application widely, unless you wish additional
headaches. :-)
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.idlcoyote.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Buttons in Widgets [message #80564 is a reply to message #80562] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 04:48 |
Helder Marchetto
Messages: 520
Registered: November 2011
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On Monday, June 25, 2012 1:17:47 PM UTC+2, alx wrote:
> On 25 juin, 11:54, Helder <hel...@marchetto.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm don't like that much how the buttons of IDL widgets look (Widget_button) even when using the /bitmap argument. I am exploring the solution of using a draw_widget, making it of the same color as the background(*) and then filling it is with my own drawing. The difference between the two methods is that the borders of the buttons will appear different: for a button widget these are defined by the IDL and for a draw widget one can have "no" borders or define how these look like. Another advantage is that one can have the effect of having an something like an icon floating on a background.
>> Has anybody tried doing such things? So far it seems to do the job for me, but I haven't played too much with it yet.
>> (*) Is there a way to find out what color the base widget has and/or to define it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Helder
>>
>>
>
> You might be aware that IDL 8.2 has enhancement for Widget_Button
> (color bitmap and shape). I have not used so far, but you should have
> a look.
> alain.
Hi Alain,
on the IDL Help I only found that "Widgets on Microsoft Windows oplatforms have a more modern appearance, using rounded edges for bitmap buttons."
Buttons do appear different in 8.2, but I don't yet have the freedom (look) I wished for.
Thanks, Helder
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| Re: Buttons in Widgets [message #80566 is a reply to message #80564] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 04:17 |
lecacheux.alain
Messages: 325
Registered: January 2008
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On 25 juin, 11:54, Helder <hel...@marchetto.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm don't like that much how the buttons of IDL widgets look (Widget_button) even when using the /bitmap argument. I am exploring the solution of using a draw_widget, making it of the same color as the background(*) and then filling it is with my own drawing. The difference between the two methods is that the borders of the buttons will appear different: for a button widget these are defined by the IDL and for a draw widget one can have "no" borders or define how these look like. Another advantage is that one can have the effect of having an something like an icon floating on a background.
> Has anybody tried doing such things? So far it seems to do the job for me, but I haven't played too much with it yet.
> (*) Is there a way to find out what color the base widget has and/or to define it?
>
> Cheers,
> Helder
>
>
You might be aware that IDL 8.2 has enhancement for Widget_Button
(color bitmap and shape). I have not used so far, but you should have
a look.
alain.
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