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| Re: Some IDL8.2.1 Workbench related problems [message #82332 is a reply to message #82331] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 08:07   |
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Paul Van Delst[1]
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Registered: April 2002
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What is this "Workbench" thing people keep talking about? :o)
It's probably an obvious sign of my old-fartness (what with being a
computer-y type back in the 70's when compucolors were the go, and
various PDP 11-whatsits and DEC-whosamis in the 80's) but I've never
warmed either to the idea or execution of IDEs.
I have always found them to be extremely limiting compared to just using
the various tools as needed and are supplied on a regular system. And,
when they don't work right you've got an additional degree of freedom in
your bug detection, to say nothing of the time wasted spent figuring out
why feature X of the IDE isn't working right (probably because your Java
RTE install is busted, or old, or from the wrong vendor...).
But that's just me. I guess I'm a dyed-in-the-wool command line guy (or
is *nix my IDE? Hmmm....)
cheers,
paulv
On 12/04/12 09:51, David Fanning wrote:
> Fab writes:
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>> That's all for now! I would be glad to hear if I am the only one having
>> those problems.
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> I don't think you are alone, no. :-)
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> My main problem with the Workbench is that it gets "stuck"
> in main-level programs after fixing an error in a program,
> requiring a .Reset to get going again. Of course, the
> .Reset causes me to lose all my data, which is why I am
> using the main-level program in the first place. Sigh...
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> Cheers,
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> David
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| Re: Some IDL8.2.1 Workbench related problems [message #82335 is a reply to message #82332] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 07:59 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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Fab writes:
>>> Does CTRL+F2 work in your case?
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>> Well, what is this suppose to do? I'd look it up in the
>> documentation, but I have things to do today. :-)
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> Terminates program execution, returning the calling context. This option
> issues the following commands:
> RETALL
> WIDGET_CONTROL, /RESET
> CLOSE, /FORCE, /ALL
> HEAP_GC
Yikes! When I want to do this, I just point my cursor
at the big X in the upper-right corner of the IDL
window. ;-)
I'll see if I can remember to use this later today.
>> P.S. Let's just say I'm a non-EMACS kind of a guy, so
>> pushing two keys at once is something I'm not very good it. :-(
>>
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> Well, some Eclipse shortcuts are very useful, like CTRL+F3 for examples
> which jumps into the routine where your cursor is (very useful for
> exploring code)
I don't doubt their usefulness. An EMACS guy in motion is
a wonder to behold! It's just that after 25 years of typing
code, all I can really manage is Cntl-X, Cntl-V. :-(
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: Some IDL8.2.1 Workbench related problems [message #82337 is a reply to message #82335] |
Tue, 04 December 2012 07:49 |
Fabzi
Messages: 305
Registered: July 2010
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On 12/04/2012 04:40 PM, David Fanning wrote:> Fab writes:
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>> Does CTRL+F2 work in your case?
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> Well, what is this suppose to do? I'd look it up in the
> documentation, but I have things to do today. :-)
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Terminates program execution, returning the calling context. This option
issues the following commands:
RETALL
WIDGET_CONTROL, /RESET
CLOSE, /FORCE, /ALL
HEAP_GC
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> P.S. Let's just say I'm a non-EMACS kind of a guy, so
> pushing two keys at once is something I'm not very good it. :-(
>
Well, some Eclipse shortcuts are very useful, like CTRL+F3 for examples
which jumps into the routine where your cursor is (very useful for
exploring code)
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| Re: Some IDL8.2.1 Workbench related problems [message #82370 is a reply to message #82332] |
Sat, 08 December 2012 10:57 |
Jeremy Bailin
Messages: 618
Registered: April 2008
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On 12/4/12 10:07 AM, Paul van Delst wrote:
> What is this "Workbench" thing people keep talking about? :o)
>
> It's probably an obvious sign of my old-fartness (what with being a
> computer-y type back in the 70's when compucolors were the go, and
> various PDP 11-whatsits and DEC-whosamis in the 80's) but I've never
> warmed either to the idea or execution of IDEs.
>
> I have always found them to be extremely limiting compared to just using
> the various tools as needed and are supplied on a regular system. And,
> when they don't work right you've got an additional degree of freedom in
> your bug detection, to say nothing of the time wasted spent figuring out
> why feature X of the IDE isn't working right (probably because your Java
> RTE install is busted, or old, or from the wrong vendor...).
>
> But that's just me. I guess I'm a dyed-in-the-wool command line guy (or
> is *nix my IDE? Hmmm....)
Not just you... I'm a much younger fart, but I couldn't agree more!
-Jeremy.
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