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NG windows always on top, linux Mint [message #88475] Thu, 01 May 2014 04:31 Go to next message
Fabzi is currently offline  Fabzi
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Registered: July 2010
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Folks,

I am still not very familiar with NG. NG windows behave differently than
DGs and CGs, this I could notice. Terminate or CTRL+F2 doesn't kill them
for example (they are quite sticky).

Under Linux Mint at least there is a very strange behavior which I
believe to be a bug.

If I do a first plot and then a second one:

p1 = plot(indgen(10))
p2 = plot(-indgen(10))

The second one appears *behind* the first one and there's no way to make
it appear before it. With a right click on the the first plot window,
the option "always on top" is checked, so I have to uncheck it to make
it behave "normally". Strange, huh? But the best comes when I do a third
plot:

p3 = plot(indgen(10)^2)

which appears hidden *behind* the two previous ones, which is really
what you expect from a window you just created :-(. If I want to see it,
I have to uncheck "always on top" again from the *two* previous windows.
Or, I could click on another window (say, thunderbird) and then click on
IDL again and the "always on top" boxes will be unchecked.

I think this is new since IDL8.3 or since a changed for linux Mint
(Cinnamon) but I cant be sure. Any other Mint/Ubuntu users here to test
this? That would help me if I have to make a bug report, because it is
relly tiring to see your new plots appear behind the old ones...

Cheers,

Fabien
Re: NG windows always on top, linux Mint [message #88519 is a reply to message #88475] Tue, 06 May 2014 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fabzi is currently offline  Fabzi
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Registered: July 2010
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Folks,

I was hoping this to awake a least a bit interest at least by Excelis
people (Chris)?

I've tested this on my other Mint machine and the same occurs: new
windows always appear behind the old ones.

If it would happen on windows or mac people would have complained:
anybody to confirm if this happens (or not) on other linux
distributions? I'll wait a couple of days and open a bug report.

Fabien


On 01.05.2014 13:31, Fabien wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I am still not very familiar with NG. NG windows behave differently than
> DGs and CGs, this I could notice. Terminate or CTRL+F2 doesn't kill them
> for example (they are quite sticky).
>
> Under Linux Mint at least there is a very strange behavior which I
> believe to be a bug.
>
> If I do a first plot and then a second one:
>
> p1 = plot(indgen(10))
> p2 = plot(-indgen(10))
>
> The second one appears *behind* the first one and there's no way to make
> it appear before it. With a right click on the the first plot window,
> the option "always on top" is checked, so I have to uncheck it to make
> it behave "normally". Strange, huh? But the best comes when I do a third
> plot:
>
> p3 = plot(indgen(10)^2)
>
> which appears hidden *behind* the two previous ones, which is really
> what you expect from a window you just created :-(. If I want to see it,
> I have to uncheck "always on top" again from the *two* previous windows.
> Or, I could click on another window (say, thunderbird) and then click on
> IDL again and the "always on top" boxes will be unchecked.
>
> I think this is new since IDL8.3 or since a changed for linux Mint
> (Cinnamon) but I cant be sure. Any other Mint/Ubuntu users here to test
> this? That would help me if I have to make a bug report, because it is
> relly tiring to see your new plots appear behind the old ones...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabien
>
>
>
>
Re: NG windows always on top, linux Mint [message #88520 is a reply to message #88519] Tue, 06 May 2014 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris_torrence@NOSPAM is currently offline  chris_torrence@NOSPAM
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Hi Fabien,
Can you try using the undocumented /WIDGET keyword, and see if that helps?
Thanks!
-Chris
Re: NG windows always on top, linux Mint [message #88522 is a reply to message #88520] Tue, 06 May 2014 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fabzi is currently offline  Fabzi
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Hi Chris,

On 06.05.2014 17:47, Chris Torrence wrote:
> Can you try using the undocumented /WIDGET keyword

Yes it helps, the windows behave normally with /widget! Do you know
what's going on?

Fabien
Re: NG windows always on top, linux Mint [message #88523 is a reply to message #88522] Tue, 06 May 2014 12:52 Go to previous message
chris_torrence@NOSPAM is currently offline  chris_torrence@NOSPAM
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On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 1:19:27 PM UTC-6, Fabien wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> On 06.05.2014 17:47, Chris Torrence wrote:
>
>> Can you try using the undocumented /WIDGET keyword
>
>
>
> Yes it helps, the windows behave normally with /widget! Do you know
>
> what's going on?
>
>
>
> Fabien

No, not really. All I know is that we've had lots of issues trying to keep those graphics windows on top when using the Java SWT canvas (that's the default when you're running from the Workbench). It must be some quirky interaction between Linux Mint and Eclipse that is making it especially bad in your case.

So for now, I would recommend just using /widget. Maybe keep your eye on the rest of your Linux Mint non-IDL applications and see if you see any strange behavior from them...

Cheers,
Chris
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