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No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91609] Wed, 05 August 2015 22:45 Go to next message
timothyja123 is currently offline  timothyja123
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Whats happend to announcing new releases?

The 8.5 release notes "Problems Fixed in this Version" haven't been updated since 8.4.1.

The whats new: http://www.exelisvis.com/docs/WhatsNew.html Help doc is still for 8.4.1

The only reason I even knew there was a 8.5 release was because of this blog post about some of the new feature: http://www.exelisvis.com/Company/PressRoom/Blogs/TabId/836/A rtMID/2928/ArticleID/14524/New-in-IDL-85-Function-Pointers-a nd-Dynamic-Methods.aspx

What going on?
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91611 is a reply to message #91609] Thu, 06 August 2015 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
keckniklas is currently offline  keckniklas
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Thats exactly what I thought. Especially since the python bridge is a really good feature in my eyes since the implementation is so seamless. I think they should give the developers more credit by advertising the new idl version.
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91612 is a reply to message #91609] Thu, 06 August 2015 07:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
keckniklas is currently offline  keckniklas
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Thats exactly what I thought. Especially since the python bridge is a really good feature in my eyes since the implementation is so seamless. I think they should give the developers more credit by advertising the new idl version. Maybe it has something to do with the accqusition by Harris and some related restructioring..
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91613 is a reply to message #91609] Thu, 06 August 2015 07:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Van Delst[1] is currently offline  Paul Van Delst[1]
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On 08/06/15 01:45, timothyja123@gmail.com wrote:
> Whats happend to announcing new releases?
>
> The 8.5 release notes "Problems Fixed in this Version" haven't been
> updated since 8.4.1.
>
> The whats new: http://www.exelisvis.com/docs/WhatsNew.html Help doc
> is still for 8.4.1
>
> The only reason I even knew there was a 8.5 release was because of
> this blog post about some of the new feature:
> http://www.exelisvis.com/Company/PressRoom/Blogs/TabId/836/A rtMID/2928/ArticleID/14524/New-in-IDL-85-Function-Pointers-a nd-Dynamic-Methods.aspx
>
> What going on?

Gosh...and I *just* put in a request to my IT folks for an upgrade to
v8.4.x.
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91614 is a reply to message #91609] Thu, 06 August 2015 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
keckniklas is currently offline  keckniklas
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Thats exactly what I thought. Especially since the python bridge is a really good feature in my eyes since the implementation is so seamless. I think they should give the developers more credit by advertising the new idl version. Maybe it has something to do with the accqusition by Harris and some related restructuring..
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91615 is a reply to message #91614] Thu, 06 August 2015 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris_torrence@NOSPAM is currently offline  chris_torrence@NOSPAM
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On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-6, Niklas Keck wrote:
> Thats exactly what I thought. Especially since the python bridge is a really good feature in my eyes since the implementation is so seamless. I think they should give the developers more credit by advertising the new idl version. Maybe it has something to do with the accqusition by Harris and some related restructuring..

Hi all,

Chris Torrence here. Just to clear up any speculation or confusion, there were some contractual reasons why we needed to release IDL 8.5 and ENVI 5.3 now. But the "official" release will actually be in September, and that's when we'll make an announcement and send out emails to everyone.

So just think of this as a perk for those of you who are reading our blogs and on the newsgroup. It's like being in on the kickstarter before anyone else. ;-)

As far as the docs, that has an even simpler explanation - Eduardo is our web docs guru, and he's currently on vacation. So those should be up soon.

Regarding new features, IDL 8.5 has a lot of cool stuff, including function pointers and dynamic methods, a wget function, updates to some of the new graphics, and last but not least, the IDL Python bridge! I've talked about the Python bridge before, but basically, it allows you to call PYthon code from within IDL and IDL code from within Python. It also comes with an IPython notebook kernel so you can run IDL within your web browser. It takes a bit of configuration to get it going (just like any python module) and we'll actually have some updated config information on the web page once the docs get updated.

Thanks, and enjoy!

-Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91629 is a reply to message #91615] Thu, 06 August 2015 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timothyja123 is currently offline  timothyja123
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Thanks Chris.

Any new fixes to the IDE?

For example the XML module that causes the whole IDE to crash (IDL-68766). I reported this a long time ago (with example code and steps to reproduce) and I'm starting to share my project with other devs that are discovering this problem all over again.

IDE resizing when it shouldn't on Linux (IDL-69314).

There are also constant crashes under Linux that I haven't yet found a reason for.

Its really frustrating working with an IDE thats so buggy.
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91638 is a reply to message #91629] Fri, 07 August 2015 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris_torrence@NOSPAM is currently offline  chris_torrence@NOSPAM
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On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-6, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks Chris.
>
> Any new fixes to the IDE?
>
> For example the XML module that causes the whole IDE to crash (IDL-68766). I reported this a long time ago (with example code and steps to reproduce) and I'm starting to share my project with other devs that are discovering this problem all over again.
>
> IDE resizing when it shouldn't on Linux (IDL-69314).
>
> There are also constant crashes under Linux that I haven't yet found a reason for.
>
> Its really frustrating working with an IDE thats so buggy.

Hi Timothy,

That XML bug has been fixed. For the record, that was actually crashing IDL itself, not just the Workbench. So in that case the IDE isn't buggy.

For the other bug (IDL-69314), that is unfortunately a bug in Eclipse itself. We will need to upgrade to a new version, which is a major undertaking. Hopefully we'll have time before the next release. Sorry about that.

-Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91640 is a reply to message #91638] Sun, 09 August 2015 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timothyja123 is currently offline  timothyja123
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On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 7:10:22 AM UTC+10, Chris Torrence wrote:
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-6, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks Chris.
>>
>> Any new fixes to the IDE?
>>
>> For example the XML module that causes the whole IDE to crash (IDL-68766). I reported this a long time ago (with example code and steps to reproduce) and I'm starting to share my project with other devs that are discovering this problem all over again.
>>
>> IDE resizing when it shouldn't on Linux (IDL-69314).
>>
>> There are also constant crashes under Linux that I haven't yet found a reason for.
>>
>> Its really frustrating working with an IDE thats so buggy.
>
> Hi Timothy,
>
> That XML bug has been fixed. For the record, that was actually crashing IDL itself, not just the Workbench. So in that case the IDE isn't buggy.

Great! Thanks for the info Chris :)
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91643 is a reply to message #91609] Mon, 10 August 2015 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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WOW, dropping of Windows 32-bit support came with no warning to me.

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 1:45:35 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Whats happend to announcing new releases?
>
> The 8.5 release notes "Problems Fixed in this Version" haven't been updated since 8.4.1.
>
> The whats new: http://www.exelisvis.com/docs/WhatsNew.html Help doc is still for 8.4.1
>
> The only reason I even knew there was a 8.5 release was because of this blog post about some of the new feature: http://www.exelisvis.com/Company/PressRoom/Blogs/TabId/836/A rtMID/2928/ArticleID/14524/New-in-IDL-85-Function-Pointers-a nd-Dynamic-Methods.aspx
>
> What going on?
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91649 is a reply to message #91643] Mon, 10 August 2015 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris_torrence@NOSPAM is currently offline  chris_torrence@NOSPAM
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On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 6:07:27 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
> WOW, dropping of Windows 32-bit support came with no warning to me.
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 1:45:35 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Whats happend to announcing new releases?
>>
>> The 8.5 release notes "Problems Fixed in this Version" haven't been updated since 8.4.1.
>>
>> The whats new: http://www.exelisvis.com/docs/WhatsNew.html Help doc is still for 8.4.1
>>
>> The only reason I even knew there was a 8.5 release was because of this blog post about some of the new feature: http://www.exelisvis.com/Company/PressRoom/Blogs/TabId/836/A rtMID/2928/ArticleID/14524/New-in-IDL-85-Function-Pointers-a nd-Dynamic-Methods.aspx
>>
>> What going on?

Hi Haje,

Running 32-bit IDL on a 64-bit Window machine is still supported. There just isn't a stand-alone installer.

Cheers,
Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91650 is a reply to message #91649] Mon, 10 August 2015 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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Hi Chris,
I received my license file one hour ago and just finished the install. This is when I noticed that the 32-bit executable is still available. I was previously looking at the available downloads and the release notes file. Glad to hear this. To plan ahead, do you know when 32-bit Windows support will be discontinued entirely?

Thanks,
haje

On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:57:56 AM UTC-4, Chris Torrence wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 6:07:27 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
>> WOW, dropping of Windows 32-bit support came with no warning to me.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 1:45:35 AM UTC-4, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Whats happend to announcing new releases?
>>>
>>> The 8.5 release notes "Problems Fixed in this Version" haven't been updated since 8.4.1.
>>>
>>> The whats new: http://www.exelisvis.com/docs/WhatsNew.html Help doc is still for 8.4.1
>>>
>>> The only reason I even knew there was a 8.5 release was because of this blog post about some of the new feature: http://www.exelisvis.com/Company/PressRoom/Blogs/TabId/836/A rtMID/2928/ArticleID/14524/New-in-IDL-85-Function-Pointers-a nd-Dynamic-Methods.aspx
>>>
>>> What going on?
>
> Hi Haje,
>
> Running 32-bit IDL on a 64-bit Window machine is still supported. There just isn't a stand-alone installer.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91652 is a reply to message #91650] Mon, 10 August 2015 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris_torrence@NOSPAM is currently offline  chris_torrence@NOSPAM
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On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> I received my license file one hour ago and just finished the install. This is when I noticed that the 32-bit executable is still available. I was previously looking at the available downloads and the release notes file. Glad to hear this. To plan ahead, do you know when 32-bit Windows support will be discontinued entirely?
>
> Thanks,
> haje
>

Hi Haje,

Well, I don't want to speculate (but I will!). We have a lot of customers who still rely on some of the 32-bit only libraries. I imagine it will still be several (2+) years before anything happens. But again, that's just a guess on my part.

-Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91653 is a reply to message #91652] Mon, 10 August 2015 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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Ah, more good news. I thought the days are already accounted because Linux 32-bit support got dropped already a year ago. I am not going to panic then. :-)

On another note, installed anaconda python on windows and the new python bridge worked from the get go without errors. Well done!

On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 1:09:04 PM UTC-4, Chris Torrence wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> I received my license file one hour ago and just finished the install. This is when I noticed that the 32-bit executable is still available. I was previously looking at the available downloads and the release notes file. Glad to hear this. To plan ahead, do you know when 32-bit Windows support will be discontinued entirely?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> haje
>>
>
> Hi Haje,
>
> Well, I don't want to speculate (but I will!). We have a lot of customers who still rely on some of the 32-bit only libraries. I imagine it will still be several (2+) years before anything happens. But again, that's just a guess on my part.
>
> -Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91654 is a reply to message #91653] Mon, 10 August 2015 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris_torrence@NOSPAM is currently offline  chris_torrence@NOSPAM
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On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:12:06 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
> Ah, more good news. I thought the days are already accounted because Linux 32-bit support got dropped already a year ago. I am not going to panic then. :-)
>
> On another note, installed anaconda python on windows and the new python bridge worked from the get go without errors. Well done!
>

I'm glad to hear that the Python bridge worked out of the box. The configuration can be a little tricky. Did you try both directions yet?
-Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91660 is a reply to message #91654] Tue, 11 August 2015 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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Nope, just tried IDL to python so far, not the other way around. I will give this a try when I have time.

On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 5:00:10 PM UTC-4, Chris Torrence wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:12:06 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
>> Ah, more good news. I thought the days are already accounted because Linux 32-bit support got dropped already a year ago. I am not going to panic then. :-)
>>
>> On another note, installed anaconda python on windows and the new python bridge worked from the get go without errors. Well done!
>>
>
> I'm glad to hear that the Python bridge worked out of the box. The configuration can be a little tricky. Did you try both directions yet?
> -Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91672 is a reply to message #91654] Wed, 12 August 2015 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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Chris,
I tried the python to IDL bridge and it worked as advertised after seeting the PATH and PYTHONPATH variables according to the instructions. To less than 5 min to get the example to work.

Haje

On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 5:00:10 PM UTC-4, Chris Torrence wrote:
> On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:12:06 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
>> Ah, more good news. I thought the days are already accounted because Linux 32-bit support got dropped already a year ago. I am not going to panic then. :-)
>>
>> On another note, installed anaconda python on windows and the new python bridge worked from the get go without errors. Well done!
>>
>
> I'm glad to hear that the Python bridge worked out of the box. The configuration can be a little tricky. Did you try both directions yet?
> -Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91684 is a reply to message #91672] Wed, 12 August 2015 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lstagner89 is currently offline  lstagner89
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Really exited about having an official IDL kernel. There is only so much I could do with version I [wrote](https://github.com/lstagner/idl_kernel).


On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 4:46:51 AM UTC-7, Haje Korth wrote:
> Chris,
> I tried the python to IDL bridge and it worked as advertised after seeting the PATH and PYTHONPATH variables according to the instructions. To less than 5 min to get the example to work.
>
> Haje
>
> On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 5:00:10 PM UTC-4, Chris Torrence wrote:
>> On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:12:06 AM UTC-6, Haje Korth wrote:
>>> Ah, more good news. I thought the days are already accounted because Linux 32-bit support got dropped already a year ago. I am not going to panic then. :-)
>>>
>>> On another note, installed anaconda python on windows and the new python bridge worked from the get go without errors. Well done!
>>>
>>
>> I'm glad to hear that the Python bridge worked out of the box. The configuration can be a little tricky. Did you try both directions yet?
>> -Chris
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91688 is a reply to message #91609] Thu, 13 August 2015 01:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
markb77 is currently offline  markb77
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Could someone give the thread a bump when the official documentation comes online? Not much to explore in IDL 8.5 without docs.

thanks
Mark
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91689 is a reply to message #91688] Thu, 13 August 2015 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lajos Foldy is currently offline  Lajos Foldy
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On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 10:09:35 AM UTC+2, superchromix wrote:
> Could someone give the thread a bump when the official documentation comes online? Not much to explore in IDL 8.5 without docs.
>
> thanks
> Mark

The IDL 8.5 distribution contains the documentation, too. Have you tried it? :-)

regards,
Lajos
Re: No 8.4.1 or 8.5 release announcement [message #91690 is a reply to message #91689] Thu, 13 August 2015 02:49 Go to previous message
markb77 is currently offline  markb77
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oops, I guess I misread Chris' original post about the documentation. Looks like it's there after all.
thanks.
Mark
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