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pixmaps and DEC OpenVMS [message #9954] Mon, 22 September 1997 00:00 Go to next message
gurman is currently offline  gurman
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Hi -

We're running a few AlphaStations in Digital OpenVMS V7.1 with 24-bit
color cards and IDL 5.0.2 (though the problem was the same under 4.0.1x).
Not too surprisingly, the size of a movie array which can be read into
pixmaps --- i.e., the number of pixmaps of a certain size --- is smaller
in 24-bit color than in 8-bit.

The suprising thing is that on systems with large physical memories
(>= 512 Mbyte), large WSMAX's, large NPAGEDYN and NPAGEVIR, even processes
with quite large working set quotas and extents appear to be limited to a
relatively small number of 1024 x 1024 pixmaps (i.e., ~ 16), while on a
Power Macintosh (Mac OS 8, also IDL 5.0.2) with "only" ~ 270 Mbyte of
memory, I can get up to over 100 1024 x 1024 pixmaps in 24-bit mode
bvefore the application complains about running out of memory --- and I'm
only running in a ~ 100 Mbyte partition. Even OpenVMS systems with 8-bit
color cards and < 400 Mbyte of memory can access more than 3*16 = 48
1024^2 pixmaps, so I'm clearly missing something here.

I don't understand why OpenVMS is having this problem, at least in
part because I don't know how IDL is allocating memory for the pixmaps
under OpenVMS. Anyone with insight into that and/or OpenVMS tuning
parameters who'd like to volunteer a solution/explanation/educated guess?

Thanks,

Joe Gurman

P.S. Please don't bother responding if all you want to do is extoll the
virtues of the unix flavor of the day or Windoze NT or something else over
OpenVMS. We have plenty of other platforms for other purposes, this is the
best one for the realtime applicastions these systems have to deal with.

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| Joseph B. Gurman / NASA Goddard Space Flight Center / Solar | | Physics Branch / Greenbelt MD 20771 / gurman@gsfc.nasa.gov |
| Civil servants aren't allowed to have opinions while ar work. |
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Re: pixmaps and DEC OpenVMS [message #10026 is a reply to message #9954] Wed, 24 September 1997 00:00 Go to previous message
jsb is currently offline  jsb
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Registered: June 1997
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Joseph B. Gurman (gurman@gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: The suprising thing is that on systems with large physical memories
: (>= 512 Mbyte), large WSMAX's, large NPAGEDYN and NPAGEVIR, even processes
: with quite large working set quotas and extents appear to be limited to a
: relatively small number of 1024 x 1024 pixmaps (i.e., ~ 16), while on a

Have you looked in SYS$MANAGER:DECW$DEVICE.COM for the default DECwindows
parameters? A cursory inspection shows it's looking at WSMAX, but perhaps
some of the others are holding the server back from consuming more memory.
If nothing looks promising there, you might consider installing the Digital
Open3D product. I seem to recall this either fixes or enables features of
the 24-bit graphics products, even if you (1) aren't licensed for Open3D
and (2) aren't running 3D applications.

If no expert shows up here, you might consider reposting the question on
comp.os.vms.

Stuck in 8-bit mode,
Jonathan Boswell
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