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Re: Surprising Odds and Ends [message #21242 is a reply to message #21241]

Mon, 14 August 2000 00:00

promashkin
Messages: 169
Registered: December 1999

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I agree on how widespread Heap_gc needs to be in your code. To me, it is
a command line thing that is useful to see if your program is "leaking",
which may happen. I run it after quitting my programs while in
development, to see if it finds something (I guess, help, /heap would do
it but then I'd have to clean up anyway). I have, however, a related
note. When my program crashes or freezes (or I had a bug that caused
"leaking"), I call "Clear IDL" from the "RUN" menu. In essence, it is
the same as resetting Xmanager (thus killing all widgets) and running
Heap_gc, /Verbose:

widget_control, /reset & close, /all & heap_gc, /verbose & retall

I noticed that sometimes the first "Clear IDL" call does not print out
any pointer (or object) information. Immediate second call, however,
does find lost heap variables. I guess this is exactly what David
explained. Somewhere a managed widget reflection still exists, and the
first call resets Xmanager and kills that widget, releasing the State
structure. You'd think Heap_gc would wipe the pointers in it. However,
RETALL is the last command, and Heap_gc does not find any leaks when it
is called from a last routine's level. Second "Clear IDL" finishes the
pointers off.
It seems that moving RETALL to the third position in "Clear IDL" call
would make sense. I know, I know, mucho guys don't use them wimpy menus.
They have RETALL and HEAP_GC programmed into their keyboards :-)
However, I found one nice thing about Run menu: it is available even
when your event handler gets into an infinite loop by (your) mistake,
and does not even respond to keyboard break event.
Cheers,
Pavel

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		Re: Surprising Odds and Ends By: Liam E. Gumley on Tue, 15 August 2000 00:00
		Re: Surprising Odds and Ends By: davidf on Tue, 15 August 2000 00:00
		Re: Surprising Odds and Ends By: Martin Schultz on Tue, 15 August 2000 00:00
		Re: Surprising Odds and Ends By: Mark Hadfield on Mon, 14 August 2000 16:12
		Re: Surprising Odds and Ends By: davidf on Mon, 14 August 2000 00:00
		Re: Surprising Odds and Ends By: promashkin on Mon, 14 August 2000 00:00
		Re: Surprising Odds and Ends By: davidf on Mon, 14 August 2000 00:00

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