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Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona [message #5750 is a reply to message #5674]

Wed, 31 January 1996 00:00

lrn
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Registered: May 1993

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Ken Knighton (knighton@gav.gat.com) wrote:
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: You must work in the bay area. The figure you give is no doubt greater
: than the salaries made by the Ph.D. researchers in that department.
: These researchers are used to paying $12,000/year to highly capable grad
: students to do the same thing. Also, most researchers have written
: 500-1000 line tangled webs of code that they believe are computer
: programs, and so they view programming as something that is inherently
: easy, requires merely above average intelligence, and is mostly just
: grunt work like writing a paper or preparing a presentation. Realizing
: that the researchers control the funds and that they are underpaid for
: the amount of education and hard work that they have invested, it is
: easy to understand that they would resent paying market wages to someone
: doing a task that they perceive as easy.

The whole tone of this article is out of place in this newsgroup. I
see no reason to pit ``researchers'' (by which I assume you mean
scientists) against programmers (computer scientists or whoever makes
a ``market wage''). I have written many thousands of lines of (what
you would probably call ``tangled'') code, mostly in PV-WAVE, in the
course of doing a PhD in physics. The programs I have written do what
they are intended to do and were fairly ``easy'' to write, but I'm not
writing an operating system, a mass-marketed text processing program,
or an air traffic control system either. I don't think it's scientists
resenting programmers as much as it is lack of funding in science
compared to Microsoft or wherever it is that pays ``market wages''.

Have a lovely day,
Larry

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		Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona By: joseph.b.gurman on Sun, 28 January 1996 00:00
		Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona By: Ken Knighton on Fri, 26 January 1996 00:00
		Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona By: Ken Knighton on Fri, 26 January 1996 00:00
		Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona By: bcohen on Fri, 26 January 1996 00:00
		Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona By: George D. Palo on Fri, 26 January 1996 00:00
		Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona By: knighton on Thu, 01 February 1996 00:00
		Re: Job Offer: Dept. of Planetary Sciences, Univ. of Arizona By: lrn on Wed, 31 January 1996 00:00

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