| Re: New Widgets Needed [message #63236 is a reply to message #63235] |
Thu, 30 October 2008 07:54  |
R.Bauer
Messages: 1424
Registered: November 1998
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Do they provide a converter - I guess no, and I guess we pay them for
silently killing all the procedural programming stuff also soon.
Our linux idl user group has no use for all that object orientated stuff
they have developed in the last years. We dislike the interactive tools
they want us to use. iplot, findgen(10) takes minutes :(
We do use widgets on linux and of course there are other languages on
linux which do provide a better gui interface (now) but we have decided
15years ago to use idl and paid a lot of money for maintenance.
We love batch processing so we need only a few widgets, but it looks to
me that they focus currently to much on interactive users.
It has taken several years of requests to get them to add a new netCDF
library into the current version. I do believe there are also several
others outdated.
And if I look on the eclipse environment they have implemented in
comparison to the PyDev environment I get a lot of wishes they should
continue to add/fix instead of replacing an other feature. (Which then
probably does not work as expected)
They don't use package managers for installation of their software on
linux. Why - isn't that not a task they can outsource to one of their
students? Why is it so difficult to create a deb or rpm package?
Why can't they provide a rpm/deb patch of their software?
And why isn't the vm not provided for installation from a non-oss server
similiar to adobe? I dream since long that it get's added to a knoppix
live CD.
Reimar
David Fanning schrieb:
> Folks,
>
> At the last IDL User's Group meeting the folks at ITTVIS
> mentioned that they had plans for updating (and ultimately
> moving away from) widgets. I mostly scoffed at the idea,
> but I see now that one gets a distorted perspective from
> spending too many hours on a Windows machine, where
> widgets perform spectacularly.
>
> Now, of course, I realize that pretty much everything
> *looks* ugly on a LINUX machine, but widgets over there
> really are ugly, for all kinds of reasons. In trying to
> get this Catalyst Library ready for a formal release, and
> in trying to get one of my applications ready for VM
> distribution, I've just run into a world of problems.
>
> It occurred to me this morning, as I was muttering and
> swearing at widgets again, that this is one future
> direction of IDL that I could really get behind. I've
> felt for a long time now that my maintenance dollars
> have been wasted, but if the folks at ITTVIS could
> come up with a set of graphical user interface thingies
> that looked great and worked the same across all platforms,
> I think all could be forgiven. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> P.S. Let's just say the most grievous thing so far is
> behavior that works one way in IDL and a completely
> different way on the VM. Grrrrr... I'm keeping notes.
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