| Re: Is IDL 8.1 Useable!? [message #77596 is a reply to message #77556] |
Mon, 12 September 2011 07:25   |
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Paul Van Delst[1]
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alx wrote:
> On 11 sep, 21:52, Craig Markwardt <craig.markwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 11:32 am, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
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>>> Paul van Delst writes:
>>>> The biggest issue I have with NG is that it is so agonisingly slow.
>>> I find I have a LOT easier time restarting my machine
>>> if I can catch the crash early and hit the re-boot button
>>> as soon as possible. But, I am having a difficult time
>>> telling if the machine has crashed, or the graphics are
>>> just taking a LONG time to show up! ;-)
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>> P.S. Let's just say if the delay is over 10 seconds and
>>> the fan kicks on, it is probably a crash.
>> I think ITT could use this as the new slogan for their IDL marketing
>> materials.
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>> "IDL 8: finding new ways to reboot your computer faster!"
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> P.S. Meanwhile, I could be the testimonial for IDL version 5.
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> My experience does not suggest that NG graphics is the actual cause of
> sudden IDL 8 crashes. NG is not easy to use, but this is another
> discussion.
> As I describe in previous messages, the crashes I have seen may occur
> in any situation (by executing a complex graphics statement as well as
> just moving the mouse while editing), but ALWAYS while using the
> Workbench and during a LONG interactive session. I even would say that
> long Workbench session makes the crash inevitable !
> This experience is limited to configurations mixing Windows and NVIDIA
> hardware. I could also test that changing hardware to software
> rendering had no obvious effect.
> Then, I would rather suspect some bug in Eclipse/Java on Windows or
> Eclipse implementation by ITTVIS.
i don't use the idlde/workbench but, fwiw, if it makes anyone feel better, i'm always beset by java crashes when i use
java based tools. last week it was the pgi debugger gui. it used to work but now throws all manner of java exceptions. i
assume it's because my os upgrades get somthing java-y out-of-order. in general, for me where admin of my work computer
is out of my hands and subject to all manner of IT security restrictions, java-based tools appear to be so unreliable as
to be mostly useless. the red tape mountain that must be overcome to make it not be so is not one i feel inclined to scale.
luckily, my computer never actually crashes (which, for all i know, may be due to all the above-mentioned IT
restrictions i frequently grouse about :o)
cheers,
paulv
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