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Re: IDL 8.2.2 released [message #83107 is a reply to message #83056]

Wed, 06 February 2013 16:00

Mark Piper
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On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 2:01:34 PM UTC-7, Louis Giglio wrote:
>
> I'm going to de-lurk after many years to comment on this. I'm not sure how many routines are David's, but what I have noticed is an increasing tendency for IDL releases to co-opt the functionality of a third-party routine that was in use long before the feature was formally added to IDL. Examples include LEGEND and COLORBAR. LEGEND is a particulary good example because F. K. Knight's version has been available for ~18 years before an official (and incompatible) version was added to IDL.
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> Co-opting the names of existing routines of course creates headaches because of the resulting naming conflicts.
>
> While I suppose it's good that 8.2.2 includes a new BOXPLOT routine, I note that it conflicts with Martin Schultz's version which I've used for 13 years. It would be nice if each new release of IDL didn't clobber another existing routine in the process.

Hi Louis,

This is a tough one, and IDL's blessing/curse of a single namespace is the problem. Because of this, when I started using IDL (and later when I taught IDL), it was drilled into me that if you release a routine into the wild, you should use a namespace identifier to separate it from another user's routine which may have the same name.

I empathize with the problems that we've created in recent releases by tromping on established routines like LEGEND, COLORBAR and now BOXPLOT and TIMESTAMP, and others. However, I assert that since we (VIS) make IDL, we own the primary
namespace. I think this is necessary to continue to move the language forward.

A possible workaround to allow you to call Martin Schultz's version of BOXPLOT would be to compile it in a startup file:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/6ibcyYf UXzA/WJW6eYZLP5YJ

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		IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Tue, 05 February 2013 09:39
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Wed, 06 February 2013 16:24
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Thu, 07 February 2013 08:16
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 16:09
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 16:00
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Matt[2] on Thu, 07 February 2013 08:20
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 15:23
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Bob[4] on Wed, 06 February 2013 13:23
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: dain.cilke on Thu, 07 February 2013 14:07
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Louis Giglio on Wed, 06 February 2013 13:01
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Andy Sayer on Thu, 07 February 2013 06:22
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Fabzi on Wed, 06 February 2013 11:18
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Wed, 06 February 2013 10:24
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 09:20
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 09:18
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Wed, 06 February 2013 06:51
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Fabzi on Wed, 06 February 2013 06:37
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: lecacheux.alain on Wed, 06 February 2013 04:29
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Fabzi on Wed, 06 February 2013 01:44
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: wlandsman on Tue, 05 February 2013 23:29
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Tue, 05 February 2013 15:06
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: timothyja123 on Sat, 09 February 2013 02:44
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Matt Haffner on Fri, 08 February 2013 13:48
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Michael Galloy on Wed, 13 February 2013 16:19
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: dain.cilke on Thu, 07 February 2013 14:10
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: tom.grydeland on Thu, 21 March 2013 02:38
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