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Re: IDL 8.2.2 released [message #83195 is a reply to message #83112]

Thu, 07 February 2013 06:22

Andy Sayer
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Also de-lurking to agree with Louis' comment: one of the reasons my group haven't updated from IDL 7 to IDL 8 is because the update breaks compatability with pre-existing code which we have been using for years, because of routines like this.

I know that's partially a code management issue which is our fault (trained as scientists first and programmers second, so some things such as namespace identifiers did not occur to us or others until we had been using IDL for some years), but as they say hindsight is 20:20.

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:01:34 PM UTC-5, Louis Giglio wrote:
> Fab wrote:
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>> On 02/06/2013 06:18 PM, Mark Piper wrote:
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>>> Perhaps you could provide a list of other "things in this new version
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>>> of IDL that have been in the Coyote Library for a long time"?
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>>> I'll do my best to address any concerns.
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>> I'll partly answer for David because I noticed myself some similarities:
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>> BOXPLOT -> cgBoxplot
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>> SCATTERPLOT -> cgScatterPlot
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>> IMAGE_THRESHOLD -> cgOTSU_THRESHOLD
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>> These are surely not "inventions" from David, but things people have
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>> been using intensively in the last years or so, since they were not
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>> available per default in IDL...
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> I'm going to de-lurk after many years to comment on this. I'm not sure how many routines are David's, but what I have noticed is an increasing tendency for IDL releases to co-opt the functionality of a third-party routine that was in use long before the feature was formally added to IDL. Examples include LEGEND and COLORBAR. LEGEND is a particulary good example because F. K. Knight's version has been available for ~18 years before an official (and incompatible) version was added to IDL.
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> Co-opting the names of existing routines of course creates headaches because of the resulting naming conflicts.
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> While I suppose it's good that 8.2.2 includes a new BOXPLOT routine, I note that it conflicts with Martin Schultz's version which I've used for 13 years. It would be nice if each new release of IDL didn't clobber another existing routine in the process.

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		IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Tue, 05 February 2013 09:39
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Wed, 06 February 2013 16:24
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Thu, 07 February 2013 08:16
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 16:09
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 16:00
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Matt[2] on Thu, 07 February 2013 08:20
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 15:23
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Bob[4] on Wed, 06 February 2013 13:23
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: dain.cilke on Thu, 07 February 2013 14:07
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Louis Giglio on Wed, 06 February 2013 13:01
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Andy Sayer on Thu, 07 February 2013 06:22
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Fabzi on Wed, 06 February 2013 11:18
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Wed, 06 February 2013 10:24
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 09:20
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 06 February 2013 09:18
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Wed, 06 February 2013 06:51
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Fabzi on Wed, 06 February 2013 06:37
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: lecacheux.alain on Wed, 06 February 2013 04:29
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Fabzi on Wed, 06 February 2013 01:44
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: wlandsman on Tue, 05 February 2013 23:29
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Tue, 05 February 2013 15:06
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: wlandsman on Tue, 05 February 2013 14:28
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: timothyja123 on Sat, 09 February 2013 02:44
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Matt Haffner on Fri, 08 February 2013 13:48
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Michael Galloy on Wed, 13 February 2013 16:19
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Mark Piper on Wed, 20 March 2013 14:10
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Bob[4] on Thu, 07 February 2013 14:55
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: dain.cilke on Thu, 07 February 2013 14:10
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: Bob[4] on Thu, 07 February 2013 12:14
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Thu, 07 February 2013 11:15
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: chris_torrence@NOSPAM on Thu, 07 February 2013 09:11
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: David Fanning on Thu, 07 February 2013 08:21
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: tom.grydeland on Thu, 21 March 2013 02:38
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		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: chris_torrence@NOSPAM on Mon, 15 April 2013 21:08
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: tom.grydeland on Fri, 26 April 2013 03:06
		Re: IDL 8.2.2 released By: chris_torrence@NOSPAM on Fri, 26 April 2013 14:33
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