| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81551] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 09:56  |
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Scott[1]
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Is it possible that you have it on your IDL path, but then you also have all the code in an open project that is set to automatically be added to the path (IDL project properties)?
If you turn on the duplicate routine warnings feature and look in your Problems View, are there warnings? If so you can see what the conflicts are and then see where the duplicates are coming from.
Thanks,
Scott
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81554 is a reply to message #81551] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 09:17  |
David Fanning
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Mark Piper writes:
> It looks like this:
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> http://idldatapoint.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screenshot-w indows.png
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> on Windows and like this:
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> http://idldatapoint.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screenshot-l inux.png
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> on Linux (the two OS I have available to me right now).
Well, I don't know. I'm on a Windows machine (my laptop),
running an up-to-date version of Windows 7 Professional,
and I have confirmed there is a SINGLE copy of the Coyote
Library on my IDL path, and my Workbench looks like this:
http://www.idlcoyote.com/misc/class_hierarchy.png
(Updated just a minute ago to give the whole Workbench, as
in your example.)
I don't know how to explain the differences. Any ideas?
My working theory is that IDL 8.x hates me, but I understand
from my therapist that software is probably not capable of
this.
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81555 is a reply to message #81554] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 09:11 |
Mark Piper
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On Thursday, October 4, 2012 9:57:55 AM UTC-6, Paul van Delst wrote:
> Hello,
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> On 10/04/12 11:39, Mark Piper wrote:
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>> I'd like to go further: if a bug is reported,
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> I'm curious. How does one report an IDL bug?
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> Officially, I mean; rather than grousing on this newsgroup. :o)
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> cheers,
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> paulv
Hi Paul,
Tech Support: call 303-413-3920 and you'll get to talk to Jared, Joe or David; or you can email support@exelisvis.com.
Grousing is a good way to get my attention, though.
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81557 is a reply to message #81556] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 09:06 |
Mark Piper
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:33:14 PM UTC-6, David Fanning wrote:
> Mark Piper writes:
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>> IDL 8.2.1 is now available for download from our website, www.exelisvis.com. I've listed what's new here:
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>> http://idldatapoint.com/2012/10/03/idl-8-2-1-released/
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>> and included a link to download a set of example programs.
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> You know what seems to be missing here? Quality control.
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> Here are the first two things I tried. Honestly. I don't
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> make this stuff up.
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> I went to Mark's website and read his blurb about the new
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> ColorTable function. I thought that was neat, so I downloaded
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> and installed IDL 8.2.1. The first thing I read in the
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> ColorTable documentation was this sort of odd description
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> of the Background keyword:
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> "Set this keyword to a string or three-element array describing
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> the colors of the table. Default value is [0, 0, 0]."
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> OK, so I used the example right there in the documenation and
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> tried to set a yellow background keyword, since I don't really
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> understand what a background keyword can really be used for
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> in a ColorTable function. Here is what I typed:
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> IDL> ctable = COLORTABLE([[085,026,139],[135,206,255],[0,255,0]], $
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> NCOLORS = levels, /TRANSPOSE, Background=[255,255,0])
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> Here is the error I got:
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> % COLORTABLE: BACKGROUND must be a RGB triplet or string
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> Sigh...
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Yes, this is unfortunate. I'm in contact with the developer who wrote COLORTABLE, and since this is pro code, I'll provide an updated version as soon as possible.
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> Ok, so moving on, the next thing in Mark's list that caught
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> my eye was a new "Class Hierarchy view for viewing properties
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> and methods of super- and subclasses." Again, a little oddly
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> phrased, but I just assume the documenatation writer is not
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> a native English speaker. I understand what he meant. And,
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> OK, I can definitely use that!
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> So, I open my cgMap object, which inherits a cgCoord object,
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> which inherits a cgContainer object, which inherits both an
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> IDL_Object and an IDL_Container object. Perfect test.
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> I don't know how to describe what I ended up with, but
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> "hierarchtical view" doesn't really do it justice. "God-awful
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> mis-mash" comes closer. Here is a picture of it.
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> http://www.idlcoyote.com/misc/class_hierarchy.png
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> Do you suppose that is what this is *suppose* to look like!?
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It looks like this:
http://idldatapoint.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screenshot-w indows.png
on Windows and like this:
http://idldatapoint.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screenshot-l inux.png
on Linux (the two OS I have available to me right now).
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> I've got other things to do. I'm really restoring a computer
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> that refuses to boot and is resisting all attempts at repair.
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> I'm just looking at this stuff for fun and because I like to
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> be up-to-date on the latest catastrophies. :-)
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> Cheers,
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> David
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> --
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> David Fanning, Ph.D.
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> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
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> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
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> Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81558 is a reply to message #81557] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 08:58 |
Mark Piper
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:41:16 PM UTC-6, David Fanning wrote:
> David Fanning writes:
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> By the way, I do note a positive development in the IDL
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> language itself. You can now use a START keyword with all
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> the INDGEN functions:
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> Print, Indgen(10, Start=5)
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> It's 7 more keystrokes than the old way of doing this:
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> Print, Indgen(10) + 5
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> But, it's a LOT more elegant! And, I'm happy the developers
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> are spending my maintenance dollars wisely.
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David,
The START keyword came about from the discussion in this thread earlier this year:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/RYPTjDB KHoI/zYJ_n9gRn4MJ
where Chris explains his rationale for adding it:
"It's much faster to specify START than to add an offset to the indgen after you've created it."
Regards,
Mark Piper
IDL Product Manager
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81561 is a reply to message #81559] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 08:39 |
Mark Piper
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:05:39 PM UTC-6, David Grier wrote:
> On the plus side, the z-axis labels on 3D function graphics plots now are oriented correctly.
Hi David,
Yes, this was an unfortunate bug. However, it first appeared in 8.2 and it was fixed in 8.2.1. We're trying to be more responsive in fixing bugs, and I think this is a good example.
I'd like to go further: if a bug is reported, and it has a pro code solution (like this one), we'll try to fix it as soon as possible and I'll post a solution, either here or on my idldatapoint.com blog. Please take me up on this.
Regards,
Mark Piper
IDL Product Manager
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81566 is a reply to message #81565] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 07:30 |
Paul Van Delst[1]
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Hello,
On 10/03/12 19:41, David Fanning wrote:
> David Fanning writes:
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>> I've got other things to do. I'm really restoring a computer
>> that refuses to boot and is resisting all attempts at repair.
>> I'm just looking at this stuff for fun and because I like to
>> be up-to-date on the latest catastrophies. :-)
>
> By the way, I do note a positive development in the IDL
> language itself. You can now use a START keyword with all
> the INDGEN functions:
>
> Print, Indgen(10, Start=5)
>
> It's 7 more keystrokes than the old way of doing this:
>
> Print, Indgen(10) + 5
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> But, it's a LOT more elegant! And, I'm happy the developers
> are spending my maintenance dollars wisely.
First off: MWROWRRRR!
Is that acerbic, rather than your normal good-natured, sarcasm I'm
reading? :o)
That computer you're working on must be really giving you trouble....
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81569 is a reply to message #81568] |
Wed, 03 October 2012 16:41 |
David Fanning
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David Fanning writes:
> I've got other things to do. I'm really restoring a computer
> that refuses to boot and is resisting all attempts at repair.
> I'm just looking at this stuff for fun and because I like to
> be up-to-date on the latest catastrophies. :-)
By the way, I do note a positive development in the IDL
language itself. You can now use a START keyword with all
the INDGEN functions:
Print, Indgen(10, Start=5)
It's 7 more keystrokes than the old way of doing this:
Print, Indgen(10) + 5
But, it's a LOT more elegant! And, I'm happy the developers
are spending my maintenance dollars wisely.
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81570 is a reply to message #81569] |
Wed, 03 October 2012 16:33 |
David Fanning
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Mark Piper writes:
> IDL 8.2.1 is now available for download from our website, www.exelisvis.com. I've listed what's new here:
>
> http://idldatapoint.com/2012/10/03/idl-8-2-1-released/
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> and included a link to download a set of example programs.
You know what seems to be missing here? Quality control.
Here are the first two things I tried. Honestly. I don't
make this stuff up.
I went to Mark's website and read his blurb about the new
ColorTable function. I thought that was neat, so I downloaded
and installed IDL 8.2.1. The first thing I read in the
ColorTable documentation was this sort of odd description
of the Background keyword:
"Set this keyword to a string or three-element array describing
the colors of the table. Default value is [0, 0, 0]."
OK, so I used the example right there in the documenation and
tried to set a yellow background keyword, since I don't really
understand what a background keyword can really be used for
in a ColorTable function. Here is what I typed:
IDL> ctable = COLORTABLE([[085,026,139],[135,206,255],[0,255,0]], $
NCOLORS = levels, /TRANSPOSE, Background=[255,255,0])
Here is the error I got:
% COLORTABLE: BACKGROUND must be a RGB triplet or string
Sigh...
Ok, so moving on, the next thing in Mark's list that caught
my eye was a new "Class Hierarchy view for viewing properties
and methods of super- and subclasses." Again, a little oddly
phrased, but I just assume the documenatation writer is not
a native English speaker. I understand what he meant. And,
OK, I can definitely use that!
So, I open my cgMap object, which inherits a cgCoord object,
which inherits a cgContainer object, which inherits both an
IDL_Object and an IDL_Container object. Perfect test.
I don't know how to describe what I ended up with, but
"hierarchtical view" doesn't really do it justice. "God-awful
mis-mash" comes closer. Here is a picture of it.
http://www.idlcoyote.com/misc/class_hierarchy.png
Do you suppose that is what this is *suppose* to look like!?
I've got other things to do. I'm really restoring a computer
that refuses to boot and is resisting all attempts at repair.
I'm just looking at this stuff for fun and because I like to
be up-to-date on the latest catastrophies. :-)
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81633 is a reply to message #81557] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 16:23 |
Mark Piper
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On Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:06:13 AM UTC-6, Mark Piper wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:33:14 PM UTC-6, David Fanning wrote:
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> Yes, this is unfortunate. I'm in contact with the developer who wrote COLORTABLE, and since this is pro code, I'll provide an updated version as soon as possible.
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Here's a updated version of colortable.pro:
ftp://download.exelisvis.com/groups/esg/dropoff/colortable.p ro
You can drop this into the lib/graphics directory of your IDL distribution.
mp
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81646 is a reply to message #81551] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 11:03 |
David Fanning
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Scott E writes:
> Is it possible that you have it on your IDL path, but then
> you also have all the code in an open project that is set
> to automatically be added to the path (IDL project properties)?
Oh, hang on! This does now appear to be my fault. I was showing
someone last week how to set up a Coyote directory from the idl-coyote
Subversion repository. I downloaded the files, then showed them how
to make that the coyote project directory. But, I had the *original*
Coyote directory in my IDL path.
My apologies. I take back everything I've ever said bad
about IDL 8.x. It's a wonderful piece of software. And,
I note, that when you specify 10 colors in the new
ColorTable function, you actually get 10 colors in the
color bar. Fixing that problem has improved my IDL outlook
immeasurably! :-)
Cheers,
David
P.S. Alas, I was all set to send this message. I only had
to confirm that getting back to my original set-up solved
the problem. But, IDL is now hanging in trying to make the
coyote project from the right directory. Sigh...
I can neither kill the Project Wizard (because there is
an "active" project going on, a poor choice of words
under the circumstances), nor exit IDL (because it is
being blocked by the Project Wizard.
I'll probably be in limbo the rest of my life... :-(
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81647 is a reply to message #81551] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 10:24 |
David Fanning
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Scott E writes:
> Is it possible that you have it on your IDL path, but then
> you also have all the code in an open project that is set
> to automatically be added to the path (IDL project properties)?
A thought comes to mind. Since I am VERY careful to have
only one Coyote Library directory, this coyote project is
created not in the IDL workspace, but from that one directory
on my C drive. I have both IDL 7.1.2 and IDL 8.2.1 installed
on this machine, and they both have that one directory as
a project (although in different workspaces). Do you think
that has anything to do with this?
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81648 is a reply to message #81551] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 10:10 |
David Fanning
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Scott E writes:
> Is it possible that you have it on your IDL path, but then
> you also have all the code in an open project that is set
> to automatically be added to the path (IDL project properties)?
No, I right-click on the coyote project and confirm that the
button that puts it on the IDL path when the project is opened
is deselected, as it should be.
> If you turn on the duplicate routine warnings feature and look in
> your Problems View, are there warnings? If so you can see what
> the conflicts are and then see where the duplicates are coming from.
Yes, there are warnings. Most seem be coming from the days before
the Coyote Library, when I embedded needed programs in the source
code of other programs. I get a ton of warnings about FSC_Normalize,
for example, which is in every object graphics program I wrote
prior to 2002. None of the warnings mentions anything about cgMap,
cgCoord, or cgContainer.
Thanks for looking into this.
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thos speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #81649 is a reply to message #81551] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 10:07 |
Scott[1]
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Actually I see from your last screenshot that the Problems View tab is bold. That means there are warnings there. Please check it and see if the warnings there might help track down where the duplicates are coming from.
Thanks,
Scott
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| Re: IDL 8.2.1 released [message #84702 is a reply to message #81564] |
Thu, 04 October 2012 08:18 |
Scott[1]
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Also, you can turn on the "duplicate routine warnings" feature to be alerted to the fact that you have multiple copies of a library on your path. In this case I get 2,645 warning messages in the Problems view when I have two copies of the coyote library on my path.
-Scott
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