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Re: Using IDL with Java [message #26877] Wed, 03 October 2001 09:45 Go to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Rick Towler (rtowler@u.washington.edu) writes:

> You can send VRML models created in IDL too (at least with ION script).
> This certainly has limitations but it is more than just "pictures". The
> only trick then is to find a VRML client that displays the files correctly.
> :(

Yes, as I recall, we spent the better part of a day
downloading what were "suppose" to be VRML clients.
In the end, we concluded that VRML is a standard whose
time has passed. :-)

Cheers,

David

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Re: Using IDL with Java [message #26878 is a reply to message #26877] Wed, 03 October 2001 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Towler is currently offline  Rick Towler
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"David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
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> James Adams (jadams@ucar.edu) writes:
>
>> I want to create an application which will call IDL visualization
>> routines from an Java servlet. Basically I just want to be able to use
>> a Java API to call IDL visualization programs which can produce jpg's of
>>
>> my data. From what I've seen so far this might be possible using
>> ION-Java but it's not clear from the documentation I've seen. Can
>> anybody
>> comment or provide further details ?
>
> If you just want pictures (sounds like you
> do), then ION is just the thing. If you want
> interactivity in any sort of meaningful way
> (e.g., you want something to rotate or change
> as you move a slider, etc.), forget it. All
> ION can do is send you pictures. It is not
> capable of sending geometry of objects, etc.
>

You can send VRML models created in IDL too (at least with ION script).
This certainly has limitations but it is more than just "pictures". The
only trick then is to find a VRML client that displays the files correctly.
:(

-Rick
Re: Using IDL with Java [message #26882 is a reply to message #26878] Wed, 03 October 2001 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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James Adams (jadams@ucar.edu) writes:

> I want to create an application which will call IDL visualization
> routines from an Java servlet. Basically I just want to be able to use
> a Java API to call IDL visualization programs which can produce jpg's of
>
> my data. From what I've seen so far this might be possible using
> ION-Java but it's not clear from the documentation I've seen. Can
> anybody
> comment or provide further details ?

If you just want pictures (sounds like you
do), then ION is just the thing. If you want
interactivity in any sort of meaningful way
(e.g., you want something to rotate or change
as you move a slider, etc.), forget it. All
ION can do is send you pictures. It is not
capable of sending geometry of objects, etc.

Cheers,

David
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Fanning Software Consulting
Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
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Re: Using IDL with Java [message #26950 is a reply to message #26882] Wed, 03 October 2001 15:06 Go to previous message
James Adams is currently offline  James Adams
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Registered: October 2001
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David Fanning wrote:

> James Adams (jadams@ucar.edu) writes:
>
>> I want to create an application which will call IDL visualization
>> routines from an Java servlet. Basically I just want to be able to use
>> a Java API to call IDL visualization programs which can produce jpg's of
>>
>> my data. From what I've seen so far this might be possible using
>> ION-Java but it's not clear from the documentation I've seen. Can
>> anybody
>> comment or provide further details ?
>
> If you just want pictures (sounds like you
> do), then ION is just the thing. If you want
> interactivity in any sort of meaningful way
> (e.g., you want something to rotate or change
> as you move a slider, etc.), forget it. All
> ION can do is send you pictures. It is not
> capable of sending geometry of objects, etc.
>

Thanks David. Yes pictures are exactly what I want. I work with somebody
who knows IDL and who can make me some IDL programs. I want to be able to
pass this IDL code to a Java class which can execute the IDL and return a JPG
(or a reference to where a JPG is located on the file system).

If there are any example codes out there which I might be able to look at in
order to get an idea as to how this is done then please point the way. I
have tried to look at what RSI offers as example ION-Java code but it appears
that the link is dead (http://ion.researchsystems.com/IONJava/)

Thanks again for your help...

-James
Re: Using IDL with Java [message #26973 is a reply to message #26878] Wed, 03 October 2001 09:50 Go to previous message
Pavel A. Romashkin is currently offline  Pavel A. Romashkin
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Registered: November 2000
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Rick Towler wrote:
>
> The
> only trick then is to find a VRML client that displays the files correctly.

Things like this seem to defeat the purpose of putting IDL application's
output on the Web. If I need to download 10 Mb of software to use a web
site, I am not using that site. I know its funny, but I still use a
modem to access the net from home. I will sign up for DSL (Dedicated
Satellite Link) once I get that check form David :-)

For this same reason, I think it is not a good practice to start up your
front web page with a Java applet that takes half an hour to load over a
28k modem, just to display a rolling banner with your company's logo on it.

Pavel
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